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Posted by Danny G. on August 4, 2006, 1:29 pm
> I've got a couple of the old 12 oz cans of R-12. Figured I ought to
> sell them off. Well, they are going about $20 a can on Ebay, so maybe
> the market isn't quite right. It appears that the outlawing R-12
> didn't remove it from the marketplace.
>
You can still buy it there is just no demand.
For example: United Refrigeration
http://www.uri.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/PrcTransaction/en_US/-/USD/ViewCatalog-Browse?CatalogCategoryID=4OesEEGSCTgAAAELvyTXCpUW&OnlineFlag=1
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Posted by Danny G. on August 4, 2006, 4:53 am
>
>>> Too damn cheap.... what corners is he cutting to be able to do it so cheap??
>>> Bet its not the new R-410a refrigerant either.... in a couple of years, when
>>> you need some more R-22, get ready to get fucked hard as its phased out.
>>
Ya right. You should never need to add refigerent! Leaks do happen but
not often. I find far more misdiagnosed over charged systems then I do leaks.
>> Um, what is the difference, thanks
>
> The difference is that R-22 is going away.... the production will be cut back
by an additional 65% in January of 2010...thats only
> 3 1/2 years away. At the same time. the manufactures will stop making *all*
R-22 equipment. Maybe you should do a little homework
> on the EPA and DOE websites.
Funny I just picked up a white jug of refrigerant last week. LOL
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on August 4, 2006, 5:25 am
What was your source?
--
Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
.
Funny I just picked up a white jug of refrigerant last week. LOL
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Posted by Xeno Chauvin on August 4, 2006, 3:46 pm
> Too damn cheap.... what corners is he cutting to be able to do it so
> cheap?? Bet its not the new R-410a refrigerant either.... in a couple of
> years, when you need some more R-22, get ready to get fucked hard as its
> phased out.
Or wait until they have R-410B and then you'll really get fucked.
Let's face it you have to have PLANNED obsolescence in products
or we'd all be out of work. Yeah I know the "new" refrigerant is
good for the environment.......the PAYCHECK environment.
Xeno
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Posted by James \"Cubby\" Culbertson on August 3, 2006, 11:39 pm
> Our contractor quoted us $5,000 for installation of Trane 15i air
> conditioner. That includes both inside as well as outside unit.
>
> Is that reasonable?
>
> i
>
There are a number of factors which will drive costs. Which refrigerant
are you going with? R22 will be cheaper but there's a fear that you won't
be able to service your units in a few years as production of said
refrigerant and equipment will cease. I dunno, I can still get parts for
my 67 Ford Mustang just fine so it's not a real worry for me. The newer
refrigerant units (R-410 I believe) will cost more but supposedly will last
longer (ie. production of). That being said, all the guys that came out to
give me quotes seemed to think the R-410 was over hyped, under tested, and
not worth the extra expense. Time will tell. When the company did mine,
they had to run new supply lines through the ductwork under the house
(concrete slab), remove the old Evap. cooler, modify the furnace, and do all
the hookups. Mine's a 4 ton unit Rheem. Cost ended up being about $3400
however, I did all the electrical myself which saved about $500 off the bid
price. I got 3 quotes. The other 2 were: $6500 and $10000. Both had
the electrical in them. I'd definitely recommend getting as many quotes as
reasonable to narrow the price down. Good luck.
Cheers,
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