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$760 Circuit Board or new system ? Jim 11-10-2007
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Posted by Noon-Air on November 11, 2007, 6:43 pm

> Bubba wrote:
>
>> Your 30 yr old furnace may be working but that's all its doing.
>
> What else would I want a furnace to do? Is "working" not good enough?

Not unless its working correctly.

>> "What does a standing pilot have to do with it?" (you ask)
>> Nothing other than the fact that you are most likely burning an
>> extra $20 a month each and every month which amounts to $240 a
>> year you just pissed away.
>
> First, I dispute your $20 / month.

Its probably a little higher than $20

> Second, the heat put out by the pilot is (mostly) captured within your
> house anyways, and during the heating season heat (from all sources)
> is desired.

It shouldn't be, the heat generated by the pilot should be going up the
stack.

>> (and yes, most people dont turn their pilot off in the summer)
>
> Third, I turn off the gas to my furnace during the off-heat months.

FWIW, the average utility savings from new systems that I unstall, run 60%
or more reduction.



Posted by on November 11, 2007, 6:52 pm
wrote:

>
>FWIW, the average utility savings from new systems that I unstall, run 60%
>or more reduction.
>

        Every system I ever **UNSTALLED**, the energy useage dropped
to zero :-)


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Posted by Noon-Air on November 11, 2007, 7:31 pm

> wrote:
>
>>
>>FWIW, the average utility savings from new systems that I unstall, run 60%
>>or more reduction.
>>
>
> Every system I ever **UNSTALLED**, the energy useage dropped
> to zero :-)

Sorry....typo.....my bad. That should read *INSTALLED*. I washed my hands
and can't do a thing with them.



Posted by Bubba on November 11, 2007, 7:52 pm

>Bubba wrote:
>
>> Your 30 yr old furnace may be working but that's all its doing.
>
>What else would I want a furnace to do? Is "working" not good enough?

Running efficient would be good enough which your 30yr old unit cannot
do no matter what you say or do.
>
>> "What does a standing pilot have to do with it?" (you ask)
>> Nothing other than the fact that you are most likely burning an
>> extra $20 a month each and every month which amounts to $240 a
>> year you just pissed away.
>
>First, I dispute your $20 / month.

Dispute all you want. In case you havent noticed, natural gas does
nothing but go up and up each winter. Right now its in the
"ridiculous" price range.
>
>Second, the heat put out by the pilot is (mostly) captured within your
>house anyways, and during the heating season heat (from all sources)
>is desired.

??? WTF! Since when does a pilot flame go into your house? Have you
noticed those big holes in your furnace where the burners fit in?
Have you also notice that big hole near the top of your furnace called
the draft diverter?
Have you not also noticed that big hole in your outside wall or metal
vent up through the house where your furnace flue connects?
In case you didnt realize that big hole acts like a vacuum cleaner.
The colder it is outside and the more heat you apply inside increases
the suction of that flue. Go stand atop your chimney on a 0 degree
morning while the furnace is running. Better yet, just watch the vapor
go up. Now, tell me once again how well and cheap that 30 yr old
furnace of yours is doing.
>
>> (and yes, most people dont turn their pilot off in the summer)
>
>Third, I turn off the gas to my furnace during the off-heat months.

If you had a new efficient furnace you wouldnt have to do that. When
you die, is your wife going to know how to do all that extra nonsense?

Lemme guess..............you're an engineer? My, my my. How did I
ever know?
Bubba

Posted by Zyp on November 11, 2007, 8:34 pm
Bubba wrote:
>
>> Bubba wrote:
>>
>>> Your 30 yr old furnace may be working but that's all its doing.
>>
>> What else would I want a furnace to do? Is "working" not good
>> enough?
>
> Running efficient would be good enough which your 30yr old unit cannot
> do no matter what you say or do.
>>
>>> "What does a standing pilot have to do with it?" (you ask)
>>> Nothing other than the fact that you are most likely burning an
>>> extra $20 a month each and every month which amounts to $240 a
>>> year you just pissed away.
>>
>> First, I dispute your $20 / month.
>
> Dispute all you want. In case you havent noticed, natural gas does
> nothing but go up and up each winter. Right now its in the
> "ridiculous" price range.
>>
>> Second, the heat put out by the pilot is (mostly) captured within
>> your house anyways, and during the heating season heat (from all
>> sources) is desired.
>
> ??? WTF! Since when does a pilot flame go into your house? Have you
> noticed those big holes in your furnace where the burners fit in?
> Have you also notice that big hole near the top of your furnace called
> the draft diverter?
> Have you not also noticed that big hole in your outside wall or metal
> vent up through the house where your furnace flue connects?
> In case you didnt realize that big hole acts like a vacuum cleaner.
> The colder it is outside and the more heat you apply inside increases
> the suction of that flue. Go stand atop your chimney on a 0 degree
> morning while the furnace is running. Better yet, just watch the vapor
> go up. Now, tell me once again how well and cheap that 30 yr old
> furnace of yours is doing.
>>
>>> (and yes, most people dont turn their pilot off in the summer)
>>
>> Third, I turn off the gas to my furnace during the off-heat months.
>
> If you had a new efficient furnace you wouldnt have to do that. When
> you die, is your wife going to know how to do all that extra nonsense?
>
> Lemme guess..............you're an engineer? My, my my. How did I
> ever know?
> Bubba

Did ya notice all the birds standing on your rooftop? :)

--
Zyp



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