A/C working properly? Cost -> lower temp?

Posted by Logan Shaw on July 7, 2007, 3:28 pm

carie_r@mail.com wrote:

> You've got to be kidding. Enough "hours" that any human who has ever
> used A/C would recognize that there's a problem. Here's what he
> said:

> "Running for hours could mean anything more than one hour. There's
> not much information there.

Indeed. This by itself isn't much information. I'm no expert, but I
know that A/C units need to be properly sized for the load. (If a
unit is oversized, bad things happen like either excessively short
cycle times or uncomfortable temperature swings, and maybe problems
with humidity regulation.) What this means is that on the hottest
few days of the year, the A/C *should* run a lot. If I understand
correctly, it is perfectly reasonable behavior for your A/C unit to
run for "hours" on the hottest few days of the year.

Now, combine that with the fact that the large parts of the Western
US have been experiencing a heat wave. There may be record high
temperatures where you live. Or maybe not; you might not live in
one of those areas that is experiencing record highs. We don't have
that information.

The $320 electric bill is a sign, but it's not really proof of anything.
There was a guy who posted to misc.consumers.frugal-living only a few
weeks ago whose electric bill at a small office suite was through the
roof, even though he was only there a few days a week and turned
everything off when he left. Turned out a neighboring office suite
had been accidentally wired through his meter!

So, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask you to quantify "hours".
(On the other hand, the flame fest that this thread has turned into
is unreasonable.)

- Logan

Posted by Noon-Air on July 7, 2007, 4:35 pm

> carie_r@mail.com wrote:

>> You've got to be kidding. Enough "hours" that any human who has ever
>> used A/C would recognize that there's a problem. Here's what he
>> said:
>> "Running for hours could mean anything more than one hour. There's
>> not much information there.

> Indeed. This by itself isn't much information. I'm no expert, but I
> know that A/C units need to be properly sized for the load. (If a
> unit is oversized, bad things happen like either excessively short
> cycle times or uncomfortable temperature swings, and maybe problems
> with humidity regulation.) What this means is that on the hottest
> few days of the year, the A/C *should* run a lot. If I understand
> correctly, it is perfectly reasonable behavior for your A/C unit to
> run for "hours" on the hottest few days of the year.
> Now, combine that with the fact that the large parts of the Western
> US have been experiencing a heat wave. There may be record high
> temperatures where you live. Or maybe not; you might not live in
> one of those areas that is experiencing record highs. We don't have
> that information.
> The $320 electric bill is a sign, but it's not really proof of anything.
> There was a guy who posted to misc.consumers.frugal-living only a few
> weeks ago whose electric bill at a small office suite was through the
> roof, even though he was only there a few days a week and turned
> everything off when he left. Turned out a neighboring office suite
> had been accidentally wired through his meter!

the $320 light bill is from LAST MONTH, and has nothing to do with the
current heat wave.
The OP needs to either A) be climbing the landlords ass tot get it fixed, or
B) pony up the cash and hire a pro to fix it.

> So, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask you to quantify "hours".
> (On the other hand, the flame fest that this thread has turned into
> is unreasonable.)
> - Logan

Posted by on July 7, 2007, 12:02 pm

> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:47:19 -0700, carie_r@mail.com wrote:

> >> Running for hours could mean anything more than one hour. There's not
> >> much information there. Let it run overnight. If it can't bring the

apartment

> >> down to temperature overnight, then there's something definitely wrong
> >> with it.
> >> Don

> >It's been running non-stop since 12:00 PM, it's 7:46PM, and the temp
> >is still 83 deg, thermostat still at 80 deg. I would not have said
> >"hours" if it wasn't...

> You missed his point, that hours can mean 2 or 200. So we don't know
> your personality and what you would have said it if, in your opinion,
> it wasn't, and even if you would not have said "hours" if it wasn't,
> we still didn't know how many hours. You could have said 7 hours and
> that would have been clear.
> Don't be snotty, especially when you're asking for free advice.
> Is there any chance the fan is on ON, and the thermostat is not
> accurate? Turn the thermostat down to 70 and see if goes lower than
> it is now.
> Also check the outside unit and see if it is making noise, and see if
> you can tell if the noise is the fan and the compressor, or just the
> fan.

Your post means nothing, did you miss her $320 electric bill.

What that means, is that the unit is running excessively!!!!!

Posted by HeyBub on July 7, 2007, 7:29 am

carie_r@mail.com wrote:

> It's been running non-stop since 12:00 PM, it's 7:46PM, and the temp
> is still 83 deg, thermostat still at 80 deg. I would not have said
> "hours" if it wasn't...

Hmm. 12:00PM implies twelve hours past midday (p.m. = "post meridian" = past
midday). That would be midnight. From there to 7:46PM means the ac has been
on for almost twenty hours.

Of course one could also say 12:00AM (a.m. = "ante meridian" = before
midday) which would also be midnight.

Posted by on July 7, 2007, 11:24 am

> cari...@mail.com wrote:

> > It's been running non-stop since 12:00 PM, it's 7:46PM, and the temp
> > is still 83 deg, thermostat still at 80 deg. I would not have said
> > "hours" if it wasn't...

> Hmm. 12:00PM implies twelve hours past midday (p.m. = "post meridian" = past
> midday). That would be midnight. From there to 7:46PM means the ac has been
> on for almost twenty hours.
> Of course one could also say 12:00AM (a.m. = "ante meridian" = before
> midday) which would also be midnight.

Sorry, 12:00PM is noon. Have a High School diploma?? Is English your
native language??

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