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Posted by .p.jm on April 17, 2007, 9:18 am
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:43:01 -0400, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
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>> Nice story, Mr Homeowner doing your own install. Id suggest you check
>> with your "instructor" and your "learning books" on the proper
>> procedures. Then, work with an actual tech as an apprentice for a year
>> or two and you should have all your questions answered.
>My "actual tech" couldn't answer the question for the reason that he never
>tried what I did. He doesn't spend 18 hours trying out an idea, because he
>earns his living doing it. FWIW, not one of my textbooks lists anything
>about passive pressure rise vs. time in an evacuated system.
>And yes, DBCC actually offers the certification course, which is pretty
>poorly attended. And yes, there is a severe shortage of _qualified_
>technicians in this part of Florida. I'd like to become one who actually
>understands my systems, instead of like the duct mechanic who answered
>above. I wouldn't be studying my ass off every night for ONE system, or
>shucking out what right now for me is big money on tools for ONE system; now
>would I? And since I can't buy refrigerant yet, wouldn't it all be kind of
>a waste?
>Troll!
>Does anybody besides this subhuman plenum crawler have a reasonable answer?
>Obviously, Bubba can't figure it out.
>LLoyd
You call Bubba a 'subuman plenum crawler' ?
Damn, son ! Your training is coming along quite well ! :-)
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Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on April 17, 2007, 10:59 am
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> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:43:01 -0400, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
> You call Bubba a 'subuman plenum crawler' ?
> Damn, son ! Your training is coming along quite well ! :-)
Yeah. My training here on the group is going well, too. I really hope the
demographics here don't match those two.
Since Bugga and Non-Air couldn't even figure out the symptoms much less the
problem, I asked the folks at Robinair to critique the experiment.
They said the permeability of their hoses was such that 300-odd micron rise
in 18 hours was well within the specs for the hoses, and that, yes, 500
microns is higher pressure than they would recommend, despite EPA's saying
600 was adequate. EPA could give a crap about the longevity of a system;
they just want to keep CFCs out of the air.
But, then, Bugga and Non-air probably use the "screwdriver in the Schrader
recovery system", since they're so qualified.
Seems like my county isn't the only one with a lack of qualified techs.
LLoyd
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Posted by .p.jm on April 17, 2007, 11:25 am
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:59:28 -0400, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
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>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:43:01 -0400, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
>> You call Bubba a 'subuman plenum crawler' ?
>> Damn, son ! Your training is coming along quite well ! :-)
>Yeah. My training here on the group is going well, too. I really hope the
>demographics here don't match those two.
>Since Bugga and Non-Air couldn't even figure out the symptoms much less the
>problem, I asked the folks at Robinair to critique the experiment.
>They said the permeability of their hoses was such that 300-odd micron rise
>in 18 hours was well within the specs for the hoses, and that, yes, 500
>microns is higher pressure than they would recommend, despite EPA's saying
>600 was adequate. EPA could give a crap about the longevity of a system;
>they just want to keep CFCs out of the air.
>But, then, Bugga and Non-air probably use the "screwdriver in the Schrader
>recovery system", since they're so qualified.
Wait a minute, let me go get some popcorn.
ok, GO AHEAD.
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>Seems like my county isn't the only one with a lack of qualified techs.
>LLoyd
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Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
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Posted by Noon-Air on April 17, 2007, 12:52 pm
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> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:59:28 -0400, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
>>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:43:01 -0400, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
>>> You call Bubba a 'subuman plenum crawler' ?
>>> Damn, son ! Your training is coming along quite well ! :-)
>>Yeah. My training here on the group is going well, too. I really hope
>>the
>>demographics here don't match those two.
>>Since Bugga and Non-Air couldn't even figure out the symptoms much less
>>the
>>problem, I asked the folks at Robinair to critique the experiment.
>>They said the permeability of their hoses was such that 300-odd micron
>>rise
>>in 18 hours was well within the specs for the hoses, and that, yes, 500
>>microns is higher pressure than they would recommend, despite EPA's saying
>>600 was adequate. EPA could give a crap about the longevity of a system;
>>they just want to keep CFCs out of the air.
>>But, then, Bugga and Non-air probably use the "screwdriver in the Schrader
>>recovery system", since they're so qualified.
> Wait a minute, let me go get some popcorn.
> ok, GO AHEAD.
He's not worth the effort.
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Posted by Bubba on April 17, 2007, 3:24 pm
wrote:
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>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:59:28 -0400, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
>>>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:43:01 -0400, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
>>>> You call Bubba a 'subuman plenum crawler' ?
>>>> Damn, son ! Your training is coming along quite well ! :-)
>>>Yeah. My training here on the group is going well, too. I really hope
>>>the
>>>demographics here don't match those two.
>>>Since Bugga and Non-Air couldn't even figure out the symptoms much less
>>>the
>>>problem, I asked the folks at Robinair to critique the experiment.
>>>They said the permeability of their hoses was such that 300-odd micron
>>>rise
>>>in 18 hours was well within the specs for the hoses, and that, yes, 500
>>>microns is higher pressure than they would recommend, despite EPA's saying
>>>600 was adequate. EPA could give a crap about the longevity of a system;
>>>they just want to keep CFCs out of the air.
>>>But, then, Bugga and Non-air probably use the "screwdriver in the Schrader
>>>recovery system", since they're so qualified.
>> Wait a minute, let me go get some popcorn.
>> ok, GO AHEAD.
>He's not worth the effort.
I think this is where I say,
"My A/C, vacuum pump, gauges, gauge hoses and micron gauge are working
just fine." Too bad you will just have to trip, stumble and fall on
your head to learn.
Oh yeah..........
"Blow Me" Lloyd.
Bubba
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>> with your "instructor" and your "learning books" on the proper
>> procedures. Then, work with an actual tech as an apprentice for a year
>> or two and you should have all your questions answered.
>My "actual tech" couldn't answer the question for the reason that he never
>tried what I did. He doesn't spend 18 hours trying out an idea, because he
>earns his living doing it. FWIW, not one of my textbooks lists anything
>about passive pressure rise vs. time in an evacuated system.
>And yes, DBCC actually offers the certification course, which is pretty
>poorly attended. And yes, there is a severe shortage of _qualified_
>technicians in this part of Florida. I'd like to become one who actually
>understands my systems, instead of like the duct mechanic who answered
>above. I wouldn't be studying my ass off every night for ONE system, or
>shucking out what right now for me is big money on tools for ONE system; now
>would I? And since I can't buy refrigerant yet, wouldn't it all be kind of
>a waste?
>Troll!
>Does anybody besides this subhuman plenum crawler have a reasonable answer?
>Obviously, Bubba can't figure it out.
>LLoyd