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A learning tech, a question about an experiment Lloyd E. Sponenburgh 04-17-2007
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Posted by danger on April 17, 2007, 7:12 pm
LOL ky reads and comprehends at bubba's grade level.

I said POE oil absorbs moisture quickly. Your just an idiot. I don't think
anything... I know!

It's a given you install a new filter drier when you open up a 410A system. I
thought we were talking about his vacuum
loss?!?

HAHAHAHA you are a dumb bastard.

LOL I'm making the furnace cleaner gang look weak, this month! Where's bob the
slob? What rock did he crawl under?
You bitches need backup....tout suite ;)

HAHA

-Canadian Heat


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Posted by on April 17, 2007, 9:08 pm

"DANgER" <"danger"@heat.com wrote in message
> LOL ky reads and comprehends at bubba's grade level.
>
> I said POE oil absorbs moisture quickly. Your just an idiot. I don't
think anything... I know!
>
> It's a given you install a new filter drier when you open up a 410A
system. I thought we were talking about his vacuum
> loss?!?


Please explain your following statement...

"500 microns is fine with me, never had a problem. 410A systems go a lot
faster, I tripple evacuate them though."

R-410 evacuates faster *my ass*!!!!

You really need to stop your bullshit... we all no you don't know jack shit
about HVAC/R systems.



Posted by danger on April 17, 2007, 7:12 pm
LOL ky reads and comprehends at bubba's grade level.

I said POE oil absorbs moisture quickly. Your just an idiot. I don't think
anything... I know!

It's a given you install a new filter drier when you open up a 410A system. I
thought we were talking about his vacuum
loss?!?

HAHAHAHA you are a dumb bastard.

LOL I'm making the furnace cleaner gang look weak, this month! Where's bob the
slob? What rock did he crawl under?
You bitches need backup....tout suite ;)

HAHA

-Canadian Heat


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Posted by on April 17, 2007, 1:42 pm

> I'm learning the trade, and have installed four or five residential
systems
> under the eye of my instructor.
>
> I've started buying some tools: A Robinaire 6cfm vacuum pump, a Robinaire
> thermistor gauge, some decent manifold gauges, a leak detector, basic hand
> tools, etc.
>
> My dad decided to "take the risk", and let me install his new upgrade
> system. I'm going to do all the rough work, then let my instructor check
it
> out before he charges it. But since this is "my" system, and not just a
> "job", I decided to try an experiment, and it's got me a little confused.
>
> My instructor tells me to evacuate the system by "pulling it down as far a
> the pump will take it" then letting it pump for a couple of hours more.
My
> new pump with new oil has taken every system down below 50 microns.
>
> But the Rheem manuals say you only need to go down to 500 microns.
>
> Well, I hooked up dad's system, and pumped it down. Then I shut off the
> manifold port valves, shut down the pump, disconnected the center hose,
and
> put the thing to bed overnight with the manifold gauge still connected.
>
> I wanted to see how well it would hold up overnight.
>
> 18 hours later, I reconnected the center hose to the pump, and pumped down
> the hose until I was below 50 microns again. After letting that 'age' a
few
> minutes with the pump running, I opened the manifold valves, and the
> pressure came back up to somewhere between 275 and 400 microns (finest
steps
> on my thermistor gauge).
>
> It only took about three minutes to drop that back down below 50 microns.
>
> Sorry for the long narrative, but here are the actual questions:
>
> 1) isn't the Rheem 500 micron recommendation kind of HIGH? Especially
> considering that my pump will reliably go below 50?
> 2) Did the pressure rise overnight by what is really a small amount
because
> of diffusion through the rubber hoses, or does that 300-or-so micron rise
in
> 18 hours indicate a leak? I can't disconnect the manifold gauge with a
> vacuum in the system without leaking in even more air than that, so I
don't
> have another type of test I can do for pressure rise.
>
> Thanks... just learning. Hope to have my certificate in about another 8
> months.
>
> LLoyd


If you apologize to Bubba and Noon-Air.... I will answer your questions.

Otherwise, you can be our next little b*tch.




Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on April 17, 2007, 8:30 am

>
> If you apologize to Bubba and Noon-Air.... I will answer your questions.
>
> Otherwise, you can be our next little b*tch.

As soon as they apologize for instantly calling me a liar without any
knowledge of me, I'll consider it. My reaction to them was the same as it
would be if any asshole walked up on the street and slapped me.

Several other people responded to my question in helpful ways.

To my eyes, Bubba and Noon-Air act like they're afraid someone who wants to
learn the trade will take away their jobs. That smells so much like
cowardice because of incompetence, it stinks.

If they lived here, there's not a chance in hell that could happen. We have
HOT summers, lots of snow-bird imports who can't even mow their own lawns,
and about half as many HVAC techs on the street as the market will bear.
The average wait for an "emergency" service call in the summer is about two
days. There's money to be made by good trouble-shooters who can actually
FIX stuff, instead of automatically saying "You need a new unit". I plan to
be one.

For those of you who helped, thanks. Especially, thanks for the clue that
having the micron gauge near the pump gives a lower-than-true reading. That
makes a lot of sense, but I never thought of it. I think I will hard-pipe a
couple of old gauges into the unit. We won't let the charge into it until I
say I'm done, and Ken says it passes muster. I figure we've got about two
weeks before it starts getting hot, and my dad starts complaining.


LLoyd


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