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AC not keeping up - tech says its ok - any ideas? zirconx9 07-22-2006
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Posted by udarrell on August 28, 2006, 2:19 pm
JimL wrote:

>On 22 Jul 2006 21:15:43 -0700, zirconx9@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
>>Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Cleaned outdoor coils... how? Hope he used chemicals and a water hose.
>>>
>>>
>>With a garden hose.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Twenty degrees is a good temp drop over the evaporator. But is the fan
>>>in the furnace at top speed?
>>>
>>>
>>I'm not sure. I'd probably have to open up the unit and see what wires
>>
>>
>>from the motor are hooked up. Its pretty noisy when the system kicks
>
>
>>on, I'm pretty sure its on the highest speed.
>>
>>
>>
>>>What's the humidity like, there? High humidity takes a lot of power to
>>>dry the air.
>>>
>>>
>>Its been very humid lately.
>>
>>
>>
>>>The one time I saw this kind of problem, the folks were smokers. It
>>>was a 90 degree humid day, and every time they would step out to
>>>smoke, they would hold the door open for several seconds. And let the
>>>heat and humidity in.
>>>
>>>
>>No smokers here. And the doors have not been opened much in the last
>>few days.
>>
>>I went over a talked with my neighbor today, and his house was 79 when
>>mine was 75. He said thats just about all they do around here, and
>>that these open floor plan houses run pretty warm.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Try opening ALL the vents, and see if that helps. Makes me wonder if
>>>you've restricted the air flow.
>>>
>>>Also wondering if there is enough return air ducting?
>>>
>>>
>>Return ducting could be an issue, I don't see a whole lot of it. We
>>sleep with the bedroom door open, and when I open that door I can feel
>>a ton of air flowing out of the cracked door. - I just went and looked
>>and only found two returns on the upper levels of the house. One in
>>the hallway between all the bedrooms and main bath, and one in the
>>living room. Cheap construction I guess. My last home had returns in
>>just about every room.
>>
>>
>Almost None of the 500 homes in my neighborhood have room returns.
>Only those that were added by a few homeowners after the fact.
>
> The main 20x25 return is in the common area next to the furnace and
>all the interior doors have a large gap at the bottom for return air.
>
> But my doors are seldom closed anyway so no big deal to me and in 22
>years, I have no complaints about no returns.
>
>
>
Bottom link provides some info concerning duct systems. - udarrell

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Posted by Moe Jones on July 23, 2006, 1:04 pm
I would pay to have another company do a heat load of the house and see if
it, the A/C the right size for your home.

If it is then have them check the duct work to see if it has been installed
right.

--
Moe Jones
HVAC Service Technician
Energy Equalizers Inc.
Houston, Texas


> I'm having trouble with the air conditioner in the house I just moved
> into. I know its hard to diagnose anything over the 'net but I am out
> of ideas and am looking for things to check on.
>
> The house was built in '85, its 1450 sq ft, split level design. I am
> in the midwest. The livingroom and dining room are together under a
> vaulted ceiling. I've been in the attic and it looks like there is at
> least 12" of newer fiberglass insulation up there. The AC unit looks
> fairly new (5 yrs?) and is a 2.5 ton.
>
> The symtoms are: its hot! I had an AC guy come out because the house
> was 80 degrees at the thermostat, which is located in a hallway between
> the living room/dining room and the bedrooms. He checked the freeon
> level, put a new filter in, and cleaned the condenser coils. He said
> when its 100+ degrees out, its reasonable to only get down to 80. My
> last house, a 1960 ranch, had no problem cooling in any conditions, but
> ok.
>
> Today its 84 degrees out, and its 75 in the house. A 9 degree drop!
> Seems ridiculous to me. Also since the tech has been out I had the
> strongest tint available installed on all the windows in the living
> room and dining room.
>
> He said he was getting a -21 degree drop between in the in/out air at
> the evaporator, which he said was normal. I've checked the air coming
> out of the vents and its around 56-59 degrees. It feels like there is
> plenty of air flow out of the vents. Half of the vents in the basement
> are closed to push more air to the upper levels.
>
> If you have any ideas I'd appriciate it. My AC pretty much runs
> constantly during the day, all the way until 11 or 12 at night. I'm
> not looking forward to getting my first electric bill.
>



Posted by PJ ;-) on July 25, 2006, 2:18 am

Moe Jones wrote:
> I would pay to have another company do a heat load of the house and see if
> it, the A/C the right size for your home.
>
> If it is then have them check the duct work to see if it has been installed
> right.
>
> --
> Moe Jones
> HVAC Service Technician
> Energy Equalizers Inc.
> Houston, Texas

Seems like one of the few people on this site that have any idea of
what they're saying. Heat load is required, however a rule of thumb
(130-140 w/m2) can be applied. In domestic installs I've witnessed, the
ducting is usually installed poorly, BUT, capacity is important. 1st
things 1st. The unit needs to cater for the correct load. Either
reduce the load or increase the unit size.


Posted by =?iso-8859-15?Q?Tekkie=AE?= on July 25, 2006, 7:57 pm
PJ ;-) posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.

> a rule of thumb
>
Huh? Ya got two? I have been reading this group for years and even I have
picked up: rule of thumb = hack.
--
Tekkie

Posted by PJ ;-) on July 31, 2006, 7:31 pm

Tekkie=AE wrote:

> PJ ;-) posted for all of us...
> I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.
>
> > a rule of thumb
> >
> Huh? Ya got two? I have been reading this group for years and even I ha=
ve
> picked up: rule of thumb =3D hack.
> --
> Tekkie

Read the first sentence of my post dated Tues, Jul 25 2006 4:18 pm in
relation to Moe. Take the hint !! Prove my figures wrong !


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