Advice needed - Page 2

Posted by on August 26, 2008, 7:25 am

Other than your top-posting - yes, I do know. I know you're asking
for a WHOLE LOT of advice you won't understand, after which you'll be
wanting to be told how to do it step by step.

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:15:27 +0200, "Steve Lusardi"

>I don't know, but that's why I asked. Do you know?
>Steve

>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:30:23 +0200, "Steve Lusardi"

>>>I need to assemble a cold plate system for a marine freezer for the boat I
>>>am building. I have purchased 3 used cold plates aproximately 18" x 24" x
>>>4"
>>>that appear to be in good condition. They all have evaporator valves with
>>>them. I am aware that I must change the medium inside the cold plates for
>>>the freezer application. I have no experience with refrigeration systems,
>>>so
>>>I will need a lot of help. The goal is to freeze down the plates once
>>>every
>>>24 hours or more. The heat load will vary widely in this application. I
>>>will
>>>need an evaporation temperature around -40 for the medium I wish to use. I
>>>would like to also use a raw water cooled condensor for space reasons. I
>>>also want to mount the machinery in the engine space which is physically
>>>separated from the evaporators by about 20'. I need help in
>>>sizing/choosing
>>>the compressor, the accumulator and the refrigerant at least.. Should I
>>>use
>>>a controller, unique valving or other components that I have not
>>>mentioned?
>>>Could the system be designed to be self regulating? It would be better if
>>>I
>>>do the machinery installation, as I know the boat, but I will have the
>>>system professionally charged and tested. I know no one with this
>>>experience, so any advice is welcome. Effectively, I am looking for a
>>>reliable design.
>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>Steve

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Posted by Steve Lusardi on August 26, 2008, 10:44 am

Then I guess, with this terrible disadvantage I possess, I can count on you
to be the most impressed at my successful completion of the project.
Steve

> Other than your top-posting - yes, I do know. I know you're asking
> for a WHOLE LOT of advice you won't understand, after which you'll be
> wanting to be told how to do it step by step.
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:15:27 +0200, "Steve Lusardi"

>>I don't know, but that's why I asked. Do you know?
>>Steve

>>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:30:23 +0200, "Steve Lusardi"
>>>>I need to assemble a cold plate system for a marine freezer for the boat
>>>>I
>>>>am building. I have purchased 3 used cold plates aproximately 18" x 24"
>>>>x
>>>>4"
>>>>that appear to be in good condition. They all have evaporator valves
>>>>with
>>>>them. I am aware that I must change the medium inside the cold plates
>>>>for
>>>>the freezer application. I have no experience with refrigeration
>>>>systems,
>>>>so
>>>>I will need a lot of help. The goal is to freeze down the plates once
>>>>every
>>>>24 hours or more. The heat load will vary widely in this application. I
>>>>will
>>>>need an evaporation temperature around -40 for the medium I wish to use.
>>>>I
>>>>would like to also use a raw water cooled condensor for space reasons. I
>>>>also want to mount the machinery in the engine space which is physically
>>>>separated from the evaporators by about 20'. I need help in
>>>>sizing/choosing
>>>>the compressor, the accumulator and the refrigerant at least.. Should I
>>>>use
>>>>a controller, unique valving or other components that I have not
>>>>mentioned?
>>>>Could the system be designed to be self regulating? It would be better
>>>>if
>>>>I
>>>>do the machinery installation, as I know the boat, but I will have the
>>>>system professionally charged and tested. I know no one with this
>>>>experience, so any advice is welcome. Effectively, I am looking for a
>>>>reliable design.
>>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>>Steve
>>> Don't want much, do you ?
>>> --
>>> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
>>> www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>>> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
>>> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
>>> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
>>> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
>>> Free demo online at www.pmilligan.net/palm/
>>> Free 'People finder' program now at www.pmilligan.net/finder.htm

> --
> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
> www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
> Free demo online at www.pmilligan.net/palm/
> Free 'People finder' program now at www.pmilligan.net/finder.htm

Posted by on August 26, 2008, 1:07 pm

As impressed as I am by your top posting, I'm sure.

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:44:50 +0200, "Steve Lusardi"

>Then I guess, with this terrible disadvantage I possess, I can count on you
>to be the most impressed at my successful completion of the project.
>Steve

>> Other than your top-posting - yes, I do know. I know you're asking
>> for a WHOLE LOT of advice you won't understand, after which you'll be
>> wanting to be told how to do it step by step.
>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:15:27 +0200, "Steve Lusardi"

>>>I don't know, but that's why I asked. Do you know?
>>>Steve
>>>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:30:23 +0200, "Steve Lusardi"
>>>>>I need to assemble a cold plate system for a marine freezer for the boat
>>>>>I
>>>>>am building. I have purchased 3 used cold plates aproximately 18" x 24"
>>>>>x
>>>>>4"
>>>>>that appear to be in good condition. They all have evaporator valves
>>>>>with
>>>>>them. I am aware that I must change the medium inside the cold plates
>>>>>for
>>>>>the freezer application. I have no experience with refrigeration
>>>>>systems,
>>>>>so
>>>>>I will need a lot of help. The goal is to freeze down the plates once
>>>>>every
>>>>>24 hours or more. The heat load will vary widely in this application. I
>>>>>will
>>>>>need an evaporation temperature around -40 for the medium I wish to use.
>>>>>I
>>>>>would like to also use a raw water cooled condensor for space reasons. I
>>>>>also want to mount the machinery in the engine space which is physically
>>>>>separated from the evaporators by about 20'. I need help in
>>>>>sizing/choosing
>>>>>the compressor, the accumulator and the refrigerant at least.. Should I
>>>>>use
>>>>>a controller, unique valving or other components that I have not
>>>>>mentioned?
>>>>>Could the system be designed to be self regulating? It would be better
>>>>>if
>>>>>I
>>>>>do the machinery installation, as I know the boat, but I will have the
>>>>>system professionally charged and tested. I know no one with this
>>>>>experience, so any advice is welcome. Effectively, I am looking for a
>>>>>reliable design.
>>>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>>>Steve
>>>> Don't want much, do you ?
>>>> --
>>>> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
>>>> www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>>>> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
>>>> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
>>>> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
>>>> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
>>>> Free demo online at www.pmilligan.net/palm/
>>>> Free 'People finder' program now at www.pmilligan.net/finder.htm

>> --
>> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
>> www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
>> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
>> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
>> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
>> Free demo online at www.pmilligan.net/palm/
>> Free 'People finder' program now at www.pmilligan.net/finder.htm

Posted by KJPRO on August 26, 2008, 4:16 pm

> Did anyone here think of me as a potential customer? Hell no.....

Why would we... I don't advertise here!

Posted by on August 26, 2008, 9:30 am

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:30:23 +0200, "Steve Lusardi"

>I need to assemble a cold plate system for a marine freezer for the boat I
>am building. I have purchased 3 used cold plates aproximately 18" x 24" x 4"
>that appear to be in good condition. They all have evaporator valves with
>them. I am aware that I must change the medium inside the cold plates for
>the freezer application. I have no experience with refrigeration systems, so
>I will need a lot of help. The goal is to freeze down the plates once every
>24 hours or more. The heat load will vary widely in this application. I will
>need an evaporation temperature around -40 for the medium I wish to use. I
>would like to also use a raw water cooled condensor for space reasons. I
>also want to mount the machinery in the engine space which is physically
>separated from the evaporators by about 20'. I need help in sizing/choosing
>the compressor, the accumulator and the refrigerant at least.. Should I use
>a controller, unique valving or other components that I have not mentioned?
>Could the system be designed to be self regulating? It would be better if I
>do the machinery installation, as I know the boat, but I will have the
>system professionally charged and tested. I know no one with this
>experience, so any advice is welcome. Effectively, I am looking for a
>reliable design.
>Thanks in advance,
>Steve

You're not asking for much are you? Now be a good boy and run along
and play with your toys somewhere else.

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