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Application Tips for Mini Splits in Server Rooms Marc O'Brien 03-03-2007
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Posted by r.bartlett on March 4, 2007, 5:03 pm

>
> Interesting idea Marc, congrats on being published. I have been
> having trouble getting a couple of server rooms to
> keep up with the growing loads being added to the racks (not large
> enclosed racks though). I am wondering do think this
> principle could be applied to an open rack sever room? Also would some
> conversion give a strained system a little more
> capacity? Funny thing is even though the loads have gone up the icing
> issues haven't disappeared.
>
> Joseph
>
>

It's trying to get people to get away from thinking that server rooms must
be kept at a constant 18 deg'c throughout the room. The idea of the chiller
strips is to stop the hot air from mixing with the room air before it
returns to the conditioner. It's best to think of the warm air out side of
the server racks as the start of the return duct and design from there.

Correctly ducted the 'air on' will be 30+deg'c and therefore will hold more
heat to help prevent coil freezing and save energy by not allowing it to mix
with air that's just been cooled. This method will also increase the
performance of the existing equipment by supplying cool air to where it's
best needed -i.e. the air intake side of the servers and not where it's not.

The big problem is converting conventional rooms to this configuration....

Personally I would have liked the r/h diag to have the return in the centre
and the cold to the outside. (as per chiller strip picture) Then draw the
chiller strips in for a better explaination of the design. However I know
that the articles are sub'ed heavily and time isn't always available..



Cheers
Richard




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Posted by on March 4, 2007, 6:44 pm
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:03:18 GMT, "r.bartlett"

>
>>
>> Interesting idea Marc, congrats on being published. I have been
>> having trouble getting a couple of server rooms to
>> keep up with the growing loads being added to the racks (not large
>> enclosed racks though). I am wondering do think this
>> principle could be applied to an open rack sever room? Also would some
>> conversion give a strained system a little more
>> capacity? Funny thing is even though the loads have gone up the icing
>> issues haven't disappeared.
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>
>It's trying to get people to get away from thinking that server rooms must
>be kept at a constant 18 deg'c throughout the room.

        Another fallacy is that they need high volume flow rates.

        Given modern rack-mount or standard-box type servers, IOW
those that do NOT require airflow from under a raised floor ( like
mainframes ), in fact the airflow through the sever is determined
strictly by the fans in the server, and thus the goal is to supply the
coolest air at the front, in a low-volume low-velocity way, such that
it just kind of 'hangs out' in front of the servers, to be pulled
through BY the servers. ANY airflow in excess of that pulled by those
little box fans will server only to BYPASS the servers and uselessly
return cooled air to the evap.

        An interesting idea would be to use duct-sock running the
length of the cold aisle to do this.

        In fact, a static coil would be an interesting idea. Very
interesting, in fact.

        Marc - next time you get to do a server room, do it with a
static coil down the length of the cold aisle, and let me know how it
turns out. You could run chilled water @ 34 F, and with enough
surface, you wouldn't even need a fan ( the fans in the computers
themselves being the only fans running ).

        I'll leave dealing with the condensate as a homework
assignment for you :-)

        The energy costs could go down very noticeably ( no system fan
required ), the room would be quieter, you might even be able to
re-evap the condensate in the warm air aisles, reducing that loss
vector also.



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Posted by Marc O'Brien on March 6, 2007, 3:07 pm
On Mar 4, 11:44 pm, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>
> Another fallacy is that they need high volume flow rates.

At the moment we're finding the heat loads work out at about 2.5kW per
rack frame. This is the equivalent to 24 PC type server boxes. A rack
of 24 tends to draw a total of 12 amps continuous off of 230V 50hz.

If we have 20=B0C air at 50% RH onto the servers with 30=B0C off the
servers then the air volume required is 0.2055m=B3/s

A floor tile measuring 600mm x 600mm with 50% free space offers a
cross sectional area of 0.18m=B2

That gives us a floor diffuser tile air velocity of 1.142m/s per rack.

Ordinarily we will have 2 racks either side of a diffuser tile, this
is a total of 4 racks or a total diffuser air velocity of 4.5m/s
(10kW)

The air volumes required are actually quite high. And 4 to 8 times as
much air, at those dT's, is required for blade servers. But then they
do let the air warm up a little more over blade servers so the air
volumes required are reduced somewhat.


Posted by Joseph on March 4, 2007, 8:36 pm

>
> >
> > Interesting idea Marc, congrats on being published. I have been
> > having trouble getting a couple of server rooms to
> > keep up with the growing loads being added to the racks (not large
> > enclosed racks though). I am wondering do think this
> > principle could be applied to an open rack sever room? Also would some
> > conversion give a strained system a little more
> > capacity? Funny thing is even though the loads have gone up the icing
> > issues haven't disappeared.
> >
> > Joseph
> >
> >
>
> It's trying to get people to get away from thinking that server rooms must >
be kept at a constant 18 deg'c throughout
the room.


Most of the server rooms I work on are set at 68/69*F. The couple rooms
that are having trouble (icing minisplits)
are set at 71*F.

Last week I was called out to an iced unit. 3 or 4 ceiling tiles had been
taken out and not replaced. Unit head
was 12" or from the open attic, replaced tiles, unit hasn't re-iced.


> The idea of the chiller
> strips is to stop the hot air from mixing with the room air before it
> returns to the conditioner. It's best to think of the warm air out side of
> the server racks as the start of the return duct and design from there.
>
> Correctly ducted the 'air on' will be 30+deg'c and therefore will hold more
> heat to help prevent coil freezing and save energy by not allowing it to mix
> with air that's just been cooled. This method will also increase the
> performance of the existing equipment by supplying cool air to where it's
> best needed -i.e. the air intake side of the servers and not where it's not.
>
> The big problem is converting conventional rooms to this configuration....
>
> Personally I would have liked the r/h diag to have the return in the centre
> and the cold to the outside. (as per chiller strip picture) Then draw the
> chiller strips in for a better explaination of the design. However I know
> that the articles are sub'ed heavily and time isn't always available..


Most of the server fans I see blow out the back of the rack. My problem
will be airflow from the minisplit heads
that are wall mount, not ducted. Small server rooms, with growing heatloads. I
have the go ahead to change one out to
catch up with demand. Have to give it some thought, might be worth looking at
for an upgrade.

Joseph

>
>
>
> Cheers
> Richard
>
>
>


Posted by Marc O'Brien on March 6, 2007, 3:22 pm
>
> Personally I would have liked the r/h diag to have the return in the centre
> and the cold to the outside.

My idea behind drawing the cold isle in the centre was so that the hot
isles we then exposed to the outdoors or surrounds so that in winter
they are cooled by cooler walls and in summer there is less heat
transmission through the walls on account of a reduced TD across the
walls.


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