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BTU question geoman 07-15-2006
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Posted by geoman on July 16, 2006, 5:39 pm

> 29CFR (OSHA regs) define the amount of light required for various types of
> commercial and industrial spaces... expressed in "foot candles".... 2
> watts per sqft is nothing more than a rule of thumb, or a wild assed
> guess.
>
> When in doubt... count the number of each type of light fixture, and run
> the calcs.
> Yes, computers are changing all the time, so it would pay to check each
> one... LCD displays generate a lot less heat than CRTs do, etc.
> Yes I do my homework.
>
>

Two watts per sq foot is better than nothing, at least your putting
something in for lighting, and it seems that no one knows the answer any
better than I do or they would have posted the darn btu per watt formula for
the new electonic ballist type bulbs.

First, I cant find my Manual N or D, So I'm in a catch here. so, can you
tell me what the new electronic bulbs deliever in BTU's per watt? If I
could find my manual along with others that my kids threw away I would look
it up :-) I even had to email Gary Lloyd to get replacements of his books.

Usage of watts= 3.413 btu is not correct or wise and it will get you into a
large oversizing condition.

So, once again, does anyone know what the btu's are for lights?



Posted by ftwhd on July 16, 2006, 6:13 pm

>
>> 29CFR (OSHA regs) define the amount of light required for various types of
>> commercial and industrial spaces... expressed in "foot candles".... 2
>> watts per sqft is nothing more than a rule of thumb, or a wild assed
>> guess.
>>
>> When in doubt... count the number of each type of light fixture, and run
>> the calcs.
>> Yes, computers are changing all the time, so it would pay to check each
>> one... LCD displays generate a lot less heat than CRTs do, etc.
>> Yes I do my homework.
>>
>>
>
>Two watts per sq foot is better than nothing, at least your putting
>something in for lighting, and it seems that no one knows the answer any
>better than I do or they would have posted the darn btu per watt formula for
>the new electonic ballist type bulbs.
>
Well maybe they dont want to give out information for free. Im sure
you can relate...


Posted by geoman on July 16, 2006, 6:48 pm

>
>>
>>> 29CFR (OSHA regs) define the amount of light required for various types
>>> of
>>> commercial and industrial spaces... expressed in "foot candles".... 2
>>> watts per sqft is nothing more than a rule of thumb, or a wild assed
>>> guess.
>>>
>>> When in doubt... count the number of each type of light fixture, and run
>>> the calcs.
>>> Yes, computers are changing all the time, so it would pay to check each
>>> one... LCD displays generate a lot less heat than CRTs do, etc.
>>> Yes I do my homework.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Two watts per sq foot is better than nothing, at least your putting
>>something in for lighting, and it seems that no one knows the answer any
>>better than I do or they would have posted the darn btu per watt formula
>>for
>>the new electonic ballist type bulbs.
>>
> Well maybe they dont want to give out information for free. Im sure
> you can relate...
>

Yep, I can relate :-))) But I also said that I would share it with
another tech person. I've been stun twice this week with homeowers and Mark
walked off a job because of one trying to pick his education and then wanted
to do everything himself, but owned a rental on the lake!

Anyway, I just recieved an email explaining everything I needed to know, so
there >>>>>>>>>>>>

Also, I was informed that I was viewing something incorrectly and now I've
been set on the STRAIGHT AND NARROW again Mike !!! Praise the Lord!!!

BTW, Mark and I thought that you one reply elsewhere was good but we both
want to know what you meant when you said.....

"GOD help us all" Are you starting to get the spirit, Mike??? Good boy,
you'll be a better man for it.




Posted by ftwhd on July 18, 2006, 10:45 pm

Well you had to get me started huh. :)
>
>Also, I was informed that I was viewing something incorrectly and now I've
>been set on the STRAIGHT AND NARROW again Mike !!! Praise the Lord!!!
>
How do you know the information was true.

>BTW, Mark and I thought that you one reply elsewhere was good but we both
>want to know what you meant when you said.....
>
Maybe you have seen the light after all Rich. :)

>"GOD help us all" Are you starting to get the spirit, Mike??? Good boy,
>you'll be a better man for it.
>
>
Rich, I had have "spirits" around me from day one and in fact started
as one and will return as one. This is nothing new.

BTW there isnt a single "God" sitting on a throne with a beard and
septor waiting to judge you. Thats what organized religion wants you
to think to keep you in line. They want you to think there is some
kind of punishment for non-obeyance to "God".

Its not like that at all Rich, this may come as a shock you but there
is no Hell and nothing to fear from death. Although the "spirits" or
souls as I like to call them say Hell is on earth, it doesnt really
exist in the afterlife. Fearing "hell" is a waste of time. Fearing
"God" is a waste of time.

All your loved ones that have passed on Rich, are watching you. It
would please them very much to see you understand and believe what Ive
just said to you. :)

You know what the closest thing to "God is? A pet. They exibit
unconditonal love and forgiveness. Thats what "God" is.


Posted by geoman on July 19, 2006, 8:44 am

>
> Well you had to get me started huh. :)
>>
>>Also, I was informed that I was viewing something incorrectly and now I've
>>been set on the STRAIGHT AND NARROW again Mike !!! Praise the Lord!!!
>>
> How do you know the information was true.
>
>>BTW, Mark and I thought that you one reply elsewhere was good but we both
>>want to know what you meant when you said.....
>>
> Maybe you have seen the light after all Rich. :)
>
>>"GOD help us all" Are you starting to get the spirit, Mike??? Good
>>boy,
>>you'll be a better man for it.
>>
>>
> Rich, I had have "spirits" around me from day one and in fact started
> as one and will return as one. This is nothing new.
>
> BTW there isnt a single "God" sitting on a throne with a beard and
> septor waiting to judge you. Thats what organized religion wants you
> to think to keep you in line. They want you to think there is some
> kind of punishment for non-obeyance to "God".
>
> Its not like that at all Rich, this may come as a shock you but there
> is no Hell and nothing to fear from death. Although the "spirits" or
> souls as I like to call them say Hell is on earth, it doesnt really
> exist in the afterlife. Fearing "hell" is a waste of time. Fearing
> "God" is a waste of time.
>
> All your loved ones that have passed on Rich, are watching you. It
> would please them very much to see you understand and believe what Ive
> just said to you. :)
>
> You know what the closest thing to "God is? A pet. They exibit
> unconditonal love and forgiveness. Thats what "God" is.


I know its a 'pet' Mike. Just rattling you up a little so you won't fall
asleep on the job and get killed and end up in hell, thats all :-)))

Rich



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