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Bad inducer motor replacement? TurningWorm 01-28-2009
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Posted by TurningWorm on January 28, 2009, 9:39 am
First off hello to all those who read and post here. I am a newbie to
this group but I was hoping for some opinion from those with more
experience then me.

I have a Ruud gas pack furnace c.1996. About three weeks ago it started
making a horrific noise and stopped heating. If I turned off the heat
and just ran the fan it ran fine, so the main fan motor wasn't the
problem. I got a number for a freelance HVAC guy who told me the
draft-inducer blower was bad. I ordered a new one from
electricmotorwarehouse.com and he came out and installed it for me.
Presto! My heat had never worked so well. He showed me the old blower
assembly and it was corroded beyond belief. only about one fourth of the
squirrel cage was left, so I have no doubt that it was bad.

Then two nights ago I notice the house is a little chilly and check the
thermostat. I could hear the "tick" sound indicating that the heat was
supposed to be engaging, but the blower never turned on. When it was
working the inducer motor would start as soon as the heat was supposed
to engage I think. Again the fan is fine. The controls seem to be
working. The HVAC guy came out yesterday and said the new inducer motor
is bad.

My question is, is this a common thing? Are electric motors sometimes
just bad and flake out after a couple of weeks, or do I have a deeper
problem? The guy who came out said the controller board looked fine (we
had the controller board replaced about two years ago.) Is there a rely
or something that could have burnt this motor out? The old motor showed
no signs of being burnt out. In fact it was still spinning even in its
horribly corroded state. This new motor just doesn't seem to be doing
anything. It's not locked up, if you spin it by hand it spins fine.

Posted by Steve on January 28, 2009, 10:23 am

> First off hello to all those who read and post here. I am a newbie to this
> group but I was hoping for some opinion from those with more experience
> then me.
> I have a Ruud gas pack furnace c.1996. About three weeks ago it started
> making a horrific noise and stopped heating. If I turned off the heat and
> just ran the fan it ran fine, so the main fan motor wasn't the problem. I
> got a number for a freelance HVAC guy who told me the draft-inducer blower
> was bad. I ordered a new one from electricmotorwarehouse.com and he came
> out and installed it for me. Presto! My heat had never worked so well. He
> showed me the old blower assembly and it was corroded beyond belief. only
> about one fourth of the squirrel cage was left, so I have no doubt that it
> was bad.
> Then two nights ago I notice the house is a little chilly and check the
> thermostat. I could hear the "tick" sound indicating that the heat was
> supposed to be engaging, but the blower never turned on. When it was
> working the inducer motor would start as soon as the heat was supposed to
> engage I think. Again the fan is fine. The controls seem to be working.
> The HVAC guy came out yesterday and said the new inducer motor is bad.
> My question is, is this a common thing? Are electric motors sometimes just
> bad and flake out after a couple of weeks, or do I have a deeper problem?
> The guy who came out said the controller board looked fine (we had the
> controller board replaced about two years ago.) Is there a rely or
> something that could have burnt this motor out? The old motor showed no
> signs of being burnt out. In fact it was still spinning even in its
> horribly corroded state. This new motor just doesn't seem to be doing
> anything. It's not locked up, if you spin it by hand it spins fine.

There is a reason to spend the money for OEM parts, and have them installed
by a licensed professional. Can you say "warranty"??



Posted by OptimisTech on January 28, 2009, 11:31 am
Steve wrote:
>> First off hello to all those who read and post here. I am a newbie to this
>> group but I was hoping for some opinion from those with more experience
>> then me.
>> I have a Ruud gas pack furnace c.1996. About three weeks ago it started
>> making a horrific noise and stopped heating. If I turned off the heat and
>> just ran the fan it ran fine, so the main fan motor wasn't the problem. I
>> got a number for a freelance HVAC guy who told me the draft-inducer blower
>> was bad. I ordered a new one from electricmotorwarehouse.com and he came
>> out and installed it for me. Presto! My heat had never worked so well. He
>> showed me the old blower assembly and it was corroded beyond belief. only
>> about one fourth of the squirrel cage was left, so I have no doubt that it
>> was bad.
>> Then two nights ago I notice the house is a little chilly and check the
>> thermostat. I could hear the "tick" sound indicating that the heat was
>> supposed to be engaging, but the blower never turned on. When it was
>> working the inducer motor would start as soon as the heat was supposed to
>> engage I think. Again the fan is fine. The controls seem to be working.
>> The HVAC guy came out yesterday and said the new inducer motor is bad.
>> My question is, is this a common thing? Are electric motors sometimes just
>> bad and flake out after a couple of weeks, or do I have a deeper problem?
>> The guy who came out said the controller board looked fine (we had the
>> controller board replaced about two years ago.) Is there a rely or
>> something that could have burnt this motor out? The old motor showed no
>> signs of being burnt out. In fact it was still spinning even in its
>> horribly corroded state. This new motor just doesn't seem to be doing
>> anything. It's not locked up, if you spin it by hand it spins fine.
>
> There is a reason to spend the money for OEM parts, and have them installed
> by a licensed professional. Can you say "warranty"??

The blower is only 2 weeks old and the company I bought it from will
replace it if it's faulty, so warranty isn't the problem. I was just
wondering if bad motors are a common thing or if I should be concerned
about.

For what it's worth, the replacement part was a Rheem-Ruud A241 by
Fasco, which is exactly what was on the system, so either it's been
replaced before, or this was an OEM part.

Posted by Bipolar Bear on January 28, 2009, 12:07 pm

> Steve wrote:
> >> First off hello to all those who read and post here. I am a newbie to
this
> >> group but I was hoping for some opinion from those with more experience
> >> then me.
> >> I have a Ruud gas pack furnace c.1996. About three weeks ago it started
> >> making a horrific noise and stopped heating. If I turned off the heat
and
> >> just ran the fan it ran fine, so the main fan motor wasn't the problem.
I
> >> got a number for a freelance HVAC guy who told me the draft-inducer
blower
> >> was bad. I ordered a new one from electricmotorwarehouse.com and he
came
> >> out and installed it for me. Presto! My heat had never worked so well.
He
> >> showed me the old blower assembly and it was corroded beyond belief.
only
> >> about one fourth of the squirrel cage was left, so I have no doubt that
it
> >> was bad.
> >> Then two nights ago I notice the house is a little chilly and check the
> >> thermostat. I could hear the "tick" sound indicating that the heat was
> >> supposed to be engaging, but the blower never turned on. When it was
> >> working the inducer motor would start as soon as the heat was supposed
to
> >> engage I think. Again the fan is fine. The controls seem to be working.
> >> The HVAC guy came out yesterday and said the new inducer motor is bad.
> >> My question is, is this a common thing? Are electric motors sometimes
just
> >> bad and flake out after a couple of weeks, or do I have a deeper
problem?
> >> The guy who came out said the controller board looked fine (we had the
> >> controller board replaced about two years ago.) Is there a rely or
> >> something that could have burnt this motor out? The old motor showed no
> >> signs of being burnt out. In fact it was still spinning even in its
> >> horribly corroded state. This new motor just doesn't seem to be doing
> >> anything. It's not locked up, if you spin it by hand it spins fine.
> > There is a reason to spend the money for OEM parts, and have them
installed
> > by a licensed professional. Can you say "warranty"??
> The blower is only 2 weeks old and the company I bought it from will
> replace it if it's faulty, so warranty isn't the problem. I was just
> wondering if bad motors are a common thing or if I should be concerned
> about.
> For what it's worth, the replacement part was a Rheem-Ruud A241 by
> Fasco, which is exactly what was on the system, so either it's been
> replaced before, or this was an OEM part.

You should never hire a freelance hvac guy even if he is licensed and has
professional training because ofentimes this will cause even OEM parts to
rapidly fail.

--



Posted by Don Ocean on January 29, 2009, 12:08 am
OptimisTech wrote:
> Steve wrote:
>>> First off hello to all those who read and post here. I am a newbie to
>>> this group but I was hoping for some opinion from those with more
>>> experience then me.
>>> I have a Ruud gas pack furnace c.1996. About three weeks ago it
>>> started making a horrific noise and stopped heating. If I turned off
>>> the heat and just ran the fan it ran fine, so the main fan motor
>>> wasn't the problem. I got a number for a freelance HVAC guy who told
>>> me the draft-inducer blower was bad. I ordered a new one from
>>> electricmotorwarehouse.com and he came out and installed it for me.
>>> Presto! My heat had never worked so well. He showed me the old blower
>>> assembly and it was corroded beyond belief. only about one fourth of
>>> the squirrel cage was left, so I have no doubt that it was bad.
>>> Then two nights ago I notice the house is a little chilly and check
>>> the thermostat. I could hear the "tick" sound indicating that the
>>> heat was supposed to be engaging, but the blower never turned on.
>>> When it was working the inducer motor would start as soon as the heat
>>> was supposed to engage I think. Again the fan is fine. The controls
>>> seem to be working. The HVAC guy came out yesterday and said the new
>>> inducer motor is bad.
>>> My question is, is this a common thing? Are electric motors sometimes
>>> just bad and flake out after a couple of weeks, or do I have a deeper
>>> problem? The guy who came out said the controller board looked fine
>>> (we had the controller board replaced about two years ago.) Is there
>>> a rely or something that could have burnt this motor out? The old
>>> motor showed no signs of being burnt out. In fact it was still
>>> spinning even in its horribly corroded state. This new motor just
>>> doesn't seem to be doing anything. It's not locked up, if you spin it
>>> by hand it spins fine.
>> There is a reason to spend the money for OEM parts, and have them
>> installed by a licensed professional. Can you say "warranty"??
>
> The blower is only 2 weeks old and the company I bought it from will
> replace it if it's faulty, so warranty isn't the problem. I was just
> wondering if bad motors are a common thing or if I should be concerned
> about.
>
> For what it's worth, the replacement part was a Rheem-Ruud A241 by
> Fasco, which is exactly what was on the system, so either it's been
> replaced before, or this was an OEM part.

Some of those fasco motors had a plastic bushing in them and were
recalled. I suggest that your Service guy pull up all recall and field
changes on your unit. If you cannot get proper service from a handyman
and refuse to call A Ruud service guy Please don't expect us to give
you free service. We are not here to train you or some handyman in our
trade.

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