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Blower Coil Freeze After Compressor Replacement? Jim Conway 06-18-2008
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on June 19, 2008, 8:39 pm
Some compressor failures, there is still gas in the system. So, that's at
least one demerit for the techh who worked on it, so far. A discharged
system with a bad compressor, time to do some checking.

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If the "tech" had bothered to check the evap coil *before* replacing the
compressor, he would have probably seen that the tube sheets were rusted to
hell and would have at least checked the damn thing before installing the
new compressor. How hard is it to put a little trash gas from the recovery
can in the system to do a leak check??
Its gonna be evacuated and have a new filter/drier installed anyway.



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Posted by Don Ocean on June 19, 2008, 9:33 pm
Noon-Air wrote:
>
>> new jersey wrote:
>>>>> Why any mechanic/tech. would replace evaporator coil because it is
>>>>> freezing up
>>>>> can some one explain that to me please please please?
>>>>> tony
>>>>
>>>> What happens when the coil leaks refrigerant??????
>>>> And you *think* you're a refrigerant genius.... Bawhahahaha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If system did not last but few days it means evaporator was leaking
>>> when he or she made the change,
>>
>> Not necessarily. Old equipment can and do pop a leak whenever they
>> damned well please. A couple of years back, I installed a complete new
>> system. 4 days later the owner called andd was pissed. I found a
>> rubber seal jammed into the suction valve allowing it to leak.. I got
>> the customer to admit that he had put a cheapy gauge set on it to see
>> where the pressure should be, so in future he might refill himself. He
>> very unhappily paid for the second sevice, labor and materials. I also
>> have pulled evaporators out of their trays to clean them and found you
>> could stick a finger through both the drain trays and the evaporator.
>>
>> on other hand do we really know
>>> that evaporator is leaking or interconnect connection that was made.
>>> did tech check for acid in the system before change was made
>>> was it drier replaced which it could be clogged up causing coil to
>>> freeze up
>>> if evaporator open the leak on headers that could be repair with no
>>> to much of problem if Tech. is Tech. Did really Tech. find the leak
>>> or just
>>> said "coil is leaking it is not my problem" if coil is leaking where
>>> about is leaking in the fins can you get to it, Tech. should be able
>>> to point to
>>> customer exact spot and not just make arbitrary statement it is leaking
>>> it need to be replace. Perhaps that is type work you do but that is no
>>> way it should be done you should always make attempt to show customer
>>> what is all about.
>>
>> Thats bullshit too.. A bunch of years back Sears put put some
>> evaporators in that had thousands of tiny leaks. You put dye in the
>> system and throw a black light on it after a couple of hours run and
>> it looked like millions of tiny fireflies.
>>
>>>
>>> You always posting question and critics, Do you ever gave positive
>>> answer
>>> You making me wonder if you know difference between suction and
>>> discharge
>>> I don't think so! So Bawahahahehehoho to You
>>
>> Keep making that noise and some farmers is going to stick a milking
>> machine on you.
>
>
> If the "tech" had bothered to check the evap coil *before* replacing the
> compressor, he would have probably seen that the tube sheets were rusted
> to hell and would have at least checked the damn thing before installing
> the new compressor. How hard is it to put a little trash gas from the
> recovery can in the system to do a leak check??

Is it not possible that he did all of that? Shit happens? I refuse to
condemn while the Jury is still out.

> Its gonna be evacuated and have a new filter/drier installed anyway.
>

Posted by Noon-Air on June 20, 2008, 12:00 am

> Noon-Air wrote:
>>
>>> new jersey wrote:
>>>>>> Why any mechanic/tech. would replace evaporator coil because it is
>>>>>> freezing up
>>>>>> can some one explain that to me please please please?
>>>>>> tony
>>>>>
>>>>> What happens when the coil leaks refrigerant??????
>>>>> And you *think* you're a refrigerant genius.... Bawhahahaha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If system did not last but few days it means evaporator was leaking
>>>> when he or she made the change,
>>>
>>> Not necessarily. Old equipment can and do pop a leak whenever they
>>> damned well please. A couple of years back, I installed a complete new
>>> system. 4 days later the owner called andd was pissed. I found a rubber
>>> seal jammed into the suction valve allowing it to leak.. I got the
>>> customer to admit that he had put a cheapy gauge set on it to see where
>>> the pressure should be, so in future he might refill himself. He very
>>> unhappily paid for the second sevice, labor and materials. I also have
>>> pulled evaporators out of their trays to clean them and found you could
>>> stick a finger through both the drain trays and the evaporator.
>>>
>>> on other hand do we really know
>>>> that evaporator is leaking or interconnect connection that was made.
>>>> did tech check for acid in the system before change was made
>>>> was it drier replaced which it could be clogged up causing coil to
>>>> freeze up
>>>> if evaporator open the leak on headers that could be repair with no
>>>> to much of problem if Tech. is Tech. Did really Tech. find the leak or
>>>> just
>>>> said "coil is leaking it is not my problem" if coil is leaking where
>>>> about is leaking in the fins can you get to it, Tech. should be able to
>>>> point to
>>>> customer exact spot and not just make arbitrary statement it is leaking
>>>> it need to be replace. Perhaps that is type work you do but that is no
>>>> way it should be done you should always make attempt to show customer
>>>> what is all about.
>>>
>>> Thats bullshit too.. A bunch of years back Sears put put some
>>> evaporators in that had thousands of tiny leaks. You put dye in the
>>> system and throw a black light on it after a couple of hours run and it
>>> looked like millions of tiny fireflies.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You always posting question and critics, Do you ever gave positive
>>>> answer
>>>> You making me wonder if you know difference between suction and
>>>> discharge
>>>> I don't think so! So Bawahahahehehoho to You
>>>
>>> Keep making that noise and some farmers is going to stick a milking
>>> machine on you.
>>
>>
>> If the "tech" had bothered to check the evap coil *before* replacing the
>> compressor, he would have probably seen that the tube sheets were rusted
>> to hell and would have at least checked the damn thing before installing
>> the new compressor. How hard is it to put a little trash gas from the
>> recovery can in the system to do a leak check??
>
> Is it not possible that he did all of that? Shit happens? I refuse to
> condemn while the Jury is still out.

Jury is still out on an 18 year old system??

>> Its gonna be evacuated and have a new filter/drier installed anyway.
>>


Posted by Don Ocean on June 20, 2008, 3:34 pm
Noon-Air wrote:
>
>> Noon-Air wrote:
>>>
>>>> new jersey wrote:
>>>>>>> Why any mechanic/tech. would replace evaporator coil because it
>>>>>>> is freezing up
>>>>>>> can some one explain that to me please please please?
>>>>>>> tony
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What happens when the coil leaks refrigerant??????
>>>>>> And you *think* you're a refrigerant genius.... Bawhahahaha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If system did not last but few days it means evaporator was leaking
>>>>> when he or she made the change,
>>>>
>>>> Not necessarily. Old equipment can and do pop a leak whenever they
>>>> damned well please. A couple of years back, I installed a complete
>>>> new system. 4 days later the owner called andd was pissed. I found a
>>>> rubber seal jammed into the suction valve allowing it to leak.. I
>>>> got the customer to admit that he had put a cheapy gauge set on it
>>>> to see where the pressure should be, so in future he might refill
>>>> himself. He very unhappily paid for the second sevice, labor and
>>>> materials. I also have pulled evaporators out of their trays to
>>>> clean them and found you could stick a finger through both the drain
>>>> trays and the evaporator.
>>>>
>>>> on other hand do we really know
>>>>> that evaporator is leaking or interconnect connection that was made.
>>>>> did tech check for acid in the system before change was made
>>>>> was it drier replaced which it could be clogged up causing coil to
>>>>> freeze up
>>>>> if evaporator open the leak on headers that could be repair with no
>>>>> to much of problem if Tech. is Tech. Did really Tech. find the leak
>>>>> or just
>>>>> said "coil is leaking it is not my problem" if coil is leaking where
>>>>> about is leaking in the fins can you get to it, Tech. should be
>>>>> able to point to
>>>>> customer exact spot and not just make arbitrary statement it is
>>>>> leaking
>>>>> it need to be replace. Perhaps that is type work you do but that is no
>>>>> way it should be done you should always make attempt to show customer
>>>>> what is all about.
>>>>
>>>> Thats bullshit too.. A bunch of years back Sears put put some
>>>> evaporators in that had thousands of tiny leaks. You put dye in the
>>>> system and throw a black light on it after a couple of hours run and
>>>> it looked like millions of tiny fireflies.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You always posting question and critics, Do you ever gave positive
>>>>> answer
>>>>> You making me wonder if you know difference between suction and
>>>>> discharge
>>>>> I don't think so! So Bawahahahehehoho to You
>>>>
>>>> Keep making that noise and some farmers is going to stick a milking
>>>> machine on you.
>>>
>>>
>>> If the "tech" had bothered to check the evap coil *before* replacing
>>> the compressor, he would have probably seen that the tube sheets were
>>> rusted to hell and would have at least checked the damn thing before
>>> installing the new compressor. How hard is it to put a little trash
>>> gas from the recovery can in the system to do a leak check??
>>
>> Is it not possible that he did all of that? Shit happens? I refuse to
>> condemn while the Jury is still out.
>
> Jury is still out on an 18 year old system??

I have systems out there that are over 30 years and running just fine.
I know some Marine reefer systems that are older then that and so do
you. I refuse to convict on the word of one unhappy citizen. I want to
*KNOW* facts. Fair is fair. How many years did Carriers "Snowball" run
before they just flat shut it down and junked it?

>
>>> Its gonna be evacuated and have a new filter/drier installed anyway.
>>>
>

Posted by Dr. Hardcrab on June 20, 2008, 4:55 pm


> *KNOW* facts. Fair is fair. How many years did Carriers "Snowball" run
> before they just flat shut it down and junked it?

Snowball was an American Standard (Trane) Climatuff compressor in their
Tyler, Texas facility.
They didn't shut it down. It finally just died. (I was just there last month
and they still talk about it)


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