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Burner air intake adjustment and flame color, flame length and combustion flow HVAC Guy 10-31-2007
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Posted by HVAC Guy on October 31, 2007, 1:51 am

The burners of older natural gas furnaces usually have a round plate
that can be rotated to either open or closed positions, allowing a
variable amount of combustion air to enter the burner along with the
gas.

If the plate is fully open, the resulting flames seem shorter, faster,
uniform height, and uniform color (blue).

If the plate is fully closed, the flames are longer, slower, variable
height, and more red in color.

It seems that usually the plates are rotated fully open.

Is it true that back when natural gas was cheap, these intake plates
are usually set fully open to create a faster-moving combustion flow
to help increase exhaust temperatures that would help to prevent
chimney condensation, and that by closing the plates you are
increasing the efficiency of the furnace by slowing the combustion
flow and allowing more of the heat to be transfered to the heat
exchanger instead of escaping out the flue?

Posted by Bubba on October 31, 2007, 7:33 am

>
>The burners of older natural gas furnaces usually have a round plate
>that can be rotated to either open or closed positions, allowing a
>variable amount of combustion air to enter the burner along with the
>gas.
>
>If the plate is fully open, the resulting flames seem shorter, faster,
>uniform height, and uniform color (blue).
>
>If the plate is fully closed, the flames are longer, slower, variable
>height, and more red in color.
>
>It seems that usually the plates are rotated fully open.
>
>Is it true that back when natural gas was cheap, these intake plates
>are usually set fully open to create a faster-moving combustion flow
>to help increase exhaust temperatures that would help to prevent
>chimney condensation, and that by closing the plates you are
>increasing the efficiency of the furnace by slowing the combustion
>flow and allowing more of the heat to be transfered to the heat
>exchanger instead of escaping out the flue?

You need to purchase a CO meter or combustion efficiency meter and
play with it. You will get all the answers you wish.
Bubba

Posted by HVAC Guy on October 31, 2007, 9:51 am
Bubba wrote:

> You need to purchase a CO meter or combustion efficiency meter and
> play with it. You will get all the answers you wish.

That's doesn't answer my question about the general differences
between the fully open and fully closed positions and their effect on
combustion velocity and furnace efficiency, and if the desire to
prevent condensation in the chimney plays (played) a role in the
setting of the burner air intake baffle.

Posted by Noon-Air on October 31, 2007, 10:49 am

> Bubba wrote:
>
>> You need to purchase a CO meter or combustion efficiency meter and
>> play with it. You will get all the answers you wish.
>
> That's doesn't answer my question about the general differences
> between the fully open and fully closed positions and their effect on
> combustion velocity and furnace efficiency, and if the desire to
> prevent condensation in the chimney plays (played) a role in the
> setting of the burner air intake baffle.

Actually it does, your just too ignorant to know it.



Posted by Tony Hwang on October 31, 2007, 11:21 am
Noon-Air wrote:

>
>>Bubba wrote:
>>
>>
>>>You need to purchase a CO meter or combustion efficiency meter and
>>>play with it. You will get all the answers you wish.
>>
>>That's doesn't answer my question about the general differences
>>between the fully open and fully closed positions and their effect on
>>combustion velocity and furnace efficiency, and if the desire to
>>prevent condensation in the chimney plays (played) a role in the
>>setting of the burner air intake baffle.
>
>
> Actually it does, your just too ignorant to know it.
>
>
Hmmm,
And his id. is "HVAC Guy" He must be a quack.

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