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Can't work on AC in the rain?!?! Telehow 03-16-2007
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Posted by Telehow on March 16, 2007, 11:24 am
Noon-air

Are you a jerk by choice? Jeez.

Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe you have the ability to sit around
on a Friday and diagnose problems by telepathy and think of sarcastic
answers. Maybe you just do it for fun. Maybe you have nothing else
to do. Either way - I'm not going to waste any more of my time
responding to you.

Obviously I was giving the contractor the benefit of the doubt. I
took their answer and decided to try and find out for myself if it was
reasonable. I don't work on HVAC systems - hence my original
question. I never threw them under the bus or said anything negative
about them.

If you are in the HVAC business, which it seems you are based on your
comments, have you had issues with your customers on rainy days? If
you have I guess I could understand your provoking remarks. If not I
guess you may just have self respect issues with trying to make others
look less smart so you will feel more smart.

Regardless you must understand that in an open forum with typed
messages it is often hard to gauge the "feeling" of posts. That is
why you must use "common sense" and read your own responses to
understand whether your post will be construed as funny, informative,
obnoxious, sarcastic, etc.

Anyway - I hope your day gets better.

>
>
> >I appreciate the comments. "Common sense" would tell me that anyone
> > who works with live 240 in any condition isn't too smart. Isn't that
> > one use of breakers and VOM's?
>
> > Anway - good to know there may be reasons they can't do it. My
> > suspicion though is that one big reason is that it is Friday. It is
> > only drizzling on and off. Both air handlers that need to be cleaned
> > are indoors (attic and crawl space) of course.
>
> > I guess their decision was whether or not to send all the workers home
> > if there isn't enough billable work.
>
> > It is unknown if they would need to open any units.
>
> Its unknown if the mechanic has to open the hood on my car to work on the
> engine.



Real Goods Solar, Inc.
Posted by Noon-Air on March 16, 2007, 11:53 am

> Noon-air
>
> Are you a jerk by choice? Jeez.
>
> Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe you have the ability to sit around
> on a Friday and diagnose problems by telepathy and think of sarcastic
> answers. Maybe you just do it for fun. Maybe you have nothing else
> to do. Either way - I'm not going to waste any more of my time
> responding to you.
>
> Obviously I was giving the contractor the benefit of the doubt. I
> took their answer and decided to try and find out for myself if it was
> reasonable. I don't work on HVAC systems - hence my original
> question. I never threw them under the bus or said anything negative
> about them.

If your were giving the contractor the benifit of the doubt, then why are
you posting here??

> If you are in the HVAC business, which it seems you are based on your
> comments, have you had issues with your customers on rainy days? If
> you have I guess I could understand your provoking remarks. If not I
> guess you may just have self respect issues with trying to make others
> look less smart so you will feel more smart.

Actually, we have been having rain here, and today is too cold to do
anything except for heat pumps and gas furnaces.
As far as my time spent on here this morning, I am waiting on the delivery
truck with a replacement coil for another customer.

> Regardless you must understand that in an open forum with typed
> messages it is often hard to gauge the "feeling" of posts. That is
> why you must use "common sense" and read your own responses to
> understand whether your post will be construed as funny, informative,
> obnoxious, sarcastic, etc.

When you ask somebody a stoopid question, you gotta expect a like answer. I
can't see what you got or where you are. You would have gotten just as much
with as little information had you called a random number out of the phone
book.

> Anyway - I hope your day gets better.

My day was going just fine until you go trying to second guess your
contractor and make it sound like he/she is a slacker. If you had a problem
with it, maybe you should have asked them???



Posted by on March 16, 2007, 12:11 pm

> I appreciate the comments. "Common sense" would tell me that anyone
> who works with live 240 in any condition isn't too smart. Isn't that
> one use of breakers and VOM's?
>
> Anway - good to know there may be reasons they can't do it. My
> suspicion though is that one big reason is that it is Friday. It is
> only drizzling on and off. Both air handlers that need to be cleaned
> are indoors (attic and crawl space) of course.
>
> I guess their decision was whether or not to send all the workers home
> if there isn't enough billable work.
>
> It is unknown if they would need to open any units.


It could be that they are actually looking out for you best interest.

That said, one trip, one complete service, saves you money.

Since the indoor units need cleaned, the outside units probably need cleaned
to... no one likes to work in the rain and risk getting sick or hurt. It's
just not worth it.



Posted by Telehow on March 16, 2007, 11:37 am
k...@usenet

Good point and you are right. Thanks for the comments. Evidently I
came across a sticky subject somehow. I was just trying to understand
the rationale for not working in the rain. While I agree with all
your comments I still can't help but feel, in my opinion, they could
have still cleaned the inside units, diagnosed what they could etc.
Their office is 3 minutes from my house. I'm sure the guys working
there have a need for a full paycheck. Maybe they should have given a
choice.. pay more for 2 trips or wait.

Anyway, thanks for the comments and for your time.

>
>
> > I appreciate the comments. "Common sense" would tell me that anyone
> > who works with live 240 in any condition isn't too smart. Isn't that
> > one use of breakers and VOM's?
>
> > Anway - good to know there may be reasons they can't do it. My
> > suspicion though is that one big reason is that it is Friday. It is
> > only drizzling on and off. Both air handlers that need to be cleaned
> > are indoors (attic and crawl space) of course.
>
> > I guess their decision was whether or not to send all the workers home
> > if there isn't enough billable work.
>
> > It is unknown if they would need to open any units.
>
> It could be that they are actually looking out for you best interest.
>
> That said, one trip, one complete service, saves you money.
>
> Since the indoor units need cleaned, the outside units probably need cleaned
> to... no one likes to work in the rain and risk getting sick or hurt. It's
> just not worth it.



Posted by on March 16, 2007, 3:22 pm

> k...@usenet
>
> Good point and you are right. Thanks for the comments. Evidently I
> came across a sticky subject somehow. I was just trying to understand
> the rationale for not working in the rain. While I agree with all
> your comments I still can't help but feel, in my opinion, they could
> have still cleaned the inside units, diagnosed what they could etc.
> Their office is 3 minutes from my house. I'm sure the guys working
> there have a need for a full paycheck. Maybe they should have given a
> choice.. pay more for 2 trips or wait.



They wouldn't have likely ask that... I don't know ANY client that would
like to pay more for two trips.
(and I don't care if it's 2 miles from your house... that doesn't make up
for a lot of extra wasted time)



> Anyway, thanks for the comments and for your time.
>
> >
> >
> > > I appreciate the comments. "Common sense" would tell me that anyone
> > > who works with live 240 in any condition isn't too smart. Isn't that
> > > one use of breakers and VOM's?
> >
> > > Anway - good to know there may be reasons they can't do it. My
> > > suspicion though is that one big reason is that it is Friday. It is
> > > only drizzling on and off. Both air handlers that need to be cleaned
> > > are indoors (attic and crawl space) of course.
> >
> > > I guess their decision was whether or not to send all the workers home
> > > if there isn't enough billable work.
> >
> > > It is unknown if they would need to open any units.
> >
> > It could be that they are actually looking out for you best interest.
> >
> > That said, one trip, one complete service, saves you money.
> >
> > Since the indoor units need cleaned, the outside units probably need
cleaned
> > to... no one likes to work in the rain and risk getting sick or hurt.
It's
> > just not worth it.
>
>



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