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Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tekkie=AE?= on July 31, 2007, 9:20 pm
Noon-Air wrote:
>> On Jul 28, 5:16 pm, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:59:27 -0700, an...@siu.edu wrote:
>>>> I recently had a Carrier geothermal system installed in my new home.
>>>> The question I have is about it producing hot water. There are 2
>>>> pipes that connect to my hot water heater going into the system, HWG
>>>> in and HWG out. The HWG in comes from the bottom of the hot water
>>>> heater and the HWG out goes to top of the hot water heater. I've been
>>>> unsure if the system is producing hot water like it should. The top
>>>> pipe comming out of the geothermal system is always either the same
>>>> temperature or colder than the pipe going in. I put a temperature
>>>> prope on it to test it. Would this be right, shouldn't the top pipe
>>>> coming out be hotter than the pipe going in? I tested it for several
>>>> days now all throughout the day and this seems to be happening, even
>>>> without running any hot water. It seems though that when we do run
>>>> hot water, the pipe comming out of the system going to the hot water
>>>> heater is very cold, yet the pipe coming in is hot to the geothermal
>>>> system. Is this normal, and how else can I verify that the system is
>>>> making hot water?
>>> Open a faucet. Use the knob of the left to do it. Stick your
>>> hand under it. See if you scream.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today
>>> !!!http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>>>
>>> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
>>> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
>>> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
>>> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
>>> Free demo now available onlinehttp://pmilligan.net/palm/
>> That wouldn't be an accurate test because my electric hot water heater
>> is set to 110 at the bottom and 125 at the top. So the geothermal is
>> supposed to heat up what it can and leave the rest up to the hot water
>> heater.
>
> Either your an EE or you have an advanced degree in liberal arts.....which
> is it??
>
>
How in the heck does one get an *advanced* degree in liberal arts? What
does this involve? Nailing the protest sign to the stick?

AppliancePartsPros.com, Inc.
Posted by Noon-Air on July 31, 2007, 10:22 pm

> Noon-Air wrote:
>>> On Jul 28, 5:16 pm, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:59:27 -0700, an...@siu.edu wrote:
>>>>> I recently had a Carrier geothermal system installed in my new home.
>>>>> The question I have is about it producing hot water. There are 2
>>>>> pipes that connect to my hot water heater going into the system, HWG
>>>>> in and HWG out. The HWG in comes from the bottom of the hot water
>>>>> heater and the HWG out goes to top of the hot water heater. I've been
>>>>> unsure if the system is producing hot water like it should. The top
>>>>> pipe comming out of the geothermal system is always either the same
>>>>> temperature or colder than the pipe going in. I put a temperature
>>>>> prope on it to test it. Would this be right, shouldn't the top pipe
>>>>> coming out be hotter than the pipe going in? I tested it for several
>>>>> days now all throughout the day and this seems to be happening, even
>>>>> without running any hot water. It seems though that when we do run
>>>>> hot water, the pipe comming out of the system going to the hot water
>>>>> heater is very cold, yet the pipe coming in is hot to the geothermal
>>>>> system. Is this normal, and how else can I verify that the system is
>>>>> making hot water?
>>>> Open a faucet. Use the knob of the left to do it. Stick your
>>>> hand under it. See if you scream.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today
>>>> !!!http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>>>>
>>>> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
>>>> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
>>>> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
>>>> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
>>>> Free demo now available onlinehttp://pmilligan.net/palm/
>>> That wouldn't be an accurate test because my electric hot water heater
>>> is set to 110 at the bottom and 125 at the top. So the geothermal is
>>> supposed to heat up what it can and leave the rest up to the hot water
>>> heater.
>>
>> Either your an EE or you have an advanced degree in liberal
>> arts.....which is it??
>>
>>
> How in the heck does one get an *advanced* degree in liberal arts? What
> does this involve? Nailing the protest sign to the stick?

They can't nail anything, they're not qualified on anything sharper than a
crayon.



Posted by Bubba on July 28, 2007, 9:16 pm
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:22:37 -0700, andym@siu.edu wrote:

>On Jul 28, 5:16 pm, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:59:27 -0700, an...@siu.edu wrote:
>> >I recently had a Carrier geothermal system installed in my new home.
>> >The question I have is about it producing hot water. There are 2
>> >pipes that connect to my hot water heater going into the system, HWG
>> >in and HWG out. The HWG in comes from the bottom of the hot water
>> >heater and the HWG out goes to top of the hot water heater. I've been
>> >unsure if the system is producing hot water like it should. The top
>> >pipe comming out of the geothermal system is always either the same
>> >temperature or colder than the pipe going in. I put a temperature
>> >prope on it to test it. Would this be right, shouldn't the top pipe
>> >coming out be hotter than the pipe going in? I tested it for several
>> >days now all throughout the day and this seems to be happening, even
>> >without running any hot water. It seems though that when we do run
>> >hot water, the pipe comming out of the system going to the hot water
>> >heater is very cold, yet the pipe coming in is hot to the geothermal
>> >system. Is this normal, and how else can I verify that the system is
>> >making hot water?
>>
>> Open a faucet. Use the knob of the left to do it. Stick your
>> hand under it. See if you scream.
>>
>> --
>> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today
!!!http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>>
>> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
>> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
>> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
>> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
>> Free demo now available onlinehttp://pmilligan.net/palm/
>
>That wouldn't be an accurate test because my electric hot water heater
>is set to 110 at the bottom and 125 at the top. So the geothermal is
>supposed to heat up what it can and leave the rest up to the hot water
>heater.

You might want to look at the recommended water heater settings with
that geothermal system. You gotz the bottom one way too high.
Bubba

Posted by on July 28, 2007, 9:21 pm
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:22:37 -0700, an...@siu.edu wrote:
> >On Jul 28, 5:16 pm, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> >> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:59:27 -0700, an...@siu.edu wrote:
> >> >I recently had a Carrier geothermal system installed in my new home.
> >> >The question I have is about it producing hot water. There are 2
> >> >pipes that connect to my hot water heater going into the system, HWG
> >> >in and HWG out. The HWG in comes from the bottom of the hot water
> >> >heater and the HWG out goes to top of the hot water heater. I've been
> >> >unsure if the system is producing hot water like it should. The top
> >> >pipe comming out of the geothermal system is always either the same
> >> >temperature or colder than the pipe going in. I put a temperature
> >> >prope on it to test it. Would this be right, shouldn't the top pipe
> >> >coming out be hotter than the pipe going in? I tested it for several
> >> >days now all throughout the day and this seems to be happening, even
> >> >without running any hot water. It seems though that when we do run
> >> >hot water, the pipe comming out of the system going to the hot water
> >> >heater is very cold, yet the pipe coming in is hot to the geothermal
> >> >system. Is this normal, and how else can I verify that the system is
> >> >making hot water?
>
> >> Open a faucet. Use the knob of the left to do it. Stick your
> >> hand under it. See if you scream.
>
> >> --
> >> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today
!!!http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>
> >> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
> >> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
> >> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
> >> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
> >> Free demo now available onlinehttp://pmilligan.net/palm/
>
> >That wouldn't be an accurate test because my electric hot water heater
> >is set to 110 at the bottom and 125 at the top. So the geothermal is
> >supposed to heat up what it can and leave the rest up to the hot water
> >heater.
>
> You might want to look at the recommended water heater settings with
> that geothermal system. You gotz the bottom one way too high.
> Bubba

Both are set to what the manufacturer recommends. Bottom one is set
to 110F


Posted by daytona° on July 29, 2007, 7:50 am
In a domestic HWT....the top thermostat heats first...since heat rises, then
when that thermostat is satisfied, it opens and at the same time it closes
the circuit tot he bottom. So both should de set at the same temp or within
a few degrees. The Geo-thermal is to assist the HWT with whatever it can. It
does not provide the main and enough heated water to do the job.
And since I have not seen the installation..the Geo might use the HWT tank
as a heat exchanger in some way to assist the GEO

And then there is the other idea...I most likely don't know my ass from a
hole in the ground


>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:22:37 -0700, an...@siu.edu wrote:
>> >On Jul 28, 5:16 pm, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:59:27 -0700, an...@siu.edu wrote:
>> >> >I recently had a Carrier geothermal system installed in my new home.
>> >> >The question I have is about it producing hot water. There are 2
>> >> >pipes that connect to my hot water heater going into the system, HWG
>> >> >in and HWG out. The HWG in comes from the bottom of the hot water
>> >> >heater and the HWG out goes to top of the hot water heater. I've
>> >> >been
>> >> >unsure if the system is producing hot water like it should. The top
>> >> >pipe comming out of the geothermal system is always either the same
>> >> >temperature or colder than the pipe going in. I put a temperature
>> >> >prope on it to test it. Would this be right, shouldn't the top pipe
>> >> >coming out be hotter than the pipe going in? I tested it for several
>> >> >days now all throughout the day and this seems to be happening, even
>> >> >without running any hot water. It seems though that when we do run
>> >> >hot water, the pipe comming out of the system going to the hot water
>> >> >heater is very cold, yet the pipe coming in is hot to the geothermal
>> >> >system. Is this normal, and how else can I verify that the system is
>> >> >making hot water?
>>
>> >> Open a faucet. Use the knob of the left to do it. Stick your
>> >> hand under it. See if you scream.
>>
>> >> --
>> >> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today
>> >> !!!http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>>
>> >> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
>> >> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
>> >> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
>> >> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
>> >> Free demo now available onlinehttp://pmilligan.net/palm/
>>
>> >That wouldn't be an accurate test because my electric hot water heater
>> >is set to 110 at the bottom and 125 at the top. So the geothermal is
>> >supposed to heat up what it can and leave the rest up to the hot water
>> >heater.
>>
>> You might want to look at the recommended water heater settings with
>> that geothermal system. You gotz the bottom one way too high.
>> Bubba
>
> Both are set to what the manufacturer recommends. Bottom one is set
> to 110F
>



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