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Posted by Bubba on October 22, 2006, 10:11 pm
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>> Im sorry to hear that. Most units in attics DONT/WONT get serviced
>> well. Attics are usually very hot or very cold, no light, poor access
>> and not real easy for maneuvering in. THEN, whatever it needs you have
>> to climb back out of the attic and make another trip. The access door
>> usually gets lots of dirty hand prints on it. Anything below it,
>> shelves, carpet, etc will always be dirty. Lots of wall scrapes from
>> all the tools, ladders, boot scuff marks and big ol tech butts going
>> up and down that attic. Out of sight, out of mind. Consider about 1/2
>> of its useful live gone as soon as its installed.
>Luckily the attic access is in the laundry room. Attic is stick built, so
>at least your not banging your head on truss beams. I've seen some pretty
>tight installations, at least there's plenty of room to work here. All the
>ladder climbing gets old pretty quick though.
>> A 90%er in an attic is usually a bad idea. Its a condensing furnace
>> (water). Attics can usually get below freezing so the possibility of
>> the furnace condensate freezing is highly likely. Dont forget about
>> the A/C attached to it. Done perfectly and you shouldnt have a
>> problem. Regular maintenance on the coil, pan and drain, having an
>> auxillary pan with a float switch in the pan under the unit and all
>> sloped properly help tremendously.
>What about the A/C attached to it should I remember?
Just remember that water is above your ceiling in the evaporator coil.
I havent seen too many that dont leak through the ceiling at some
point. Proper access and servicing helps this problem greatly.
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>The whole unit does sit on a sloped pan. Didn't notice a float switch.
>> The sub gets paid by the builder so keep in mind who's toes your
>> trying to step on. If the builder is my bread and butter.......you
>> aint getting "jack" from me.
>Yeah, normally I'd agree, but this guy has P!$$3D off every sub that's been
>here. The HVAC sub can't stand the GC. On another issue he already offered
>to "stick it" to the GC if I wanted.
>But I think I like Paul's suggestion. I'll give him my number and let him
>decide what to do about it. Thanks,
>S
Just dont expect any warm and fuzzy answer like, "sure Mr homeowner.
Here's $5,000. Have a party with it."
Good luck
Bubba
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Posted by wdgeddes on October 25, 2006, 12:23 pm
cARRIER SIMPLY CHANGED TO MODEL NUMBER to 58MCB060. It is available
Also the 58MSB060 is similar with an insulated cabinet so it is
quieter.
Insist on one of those. The 58MCB is the same price as the 58MCA.
Hope that helps.
Doug
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>Hi,
>I'm in the final stages of a home addition, and have come to find out that
>my contractor installed furnaces different from what the architects plans
>called for.
>The plans were fininshed in 2004, and the architect called for a pair of
>Carrier 58MCA-060, one for the first floor and unfinished basement, and a
>second one for the second floor. It seems this specific model is no longer
>made.
>My builder used Weather King instead. In the basement he installed a 93.5
>afue unit (to service the basement and first floor). In the attic he
>installed an 80 afue unit. FWIW, the second floor is actually larger than
>the first because it sits over a garage. I didn't find anything labelled
>"model number" so I don't know the model numbers for the Weather Kings, but
>the yellow afue stickers are still on there (with a long set of numbers at
>the bottom.) Here are my questions.
>I don't know brands, and I've never heard of Weather King before, how does
>it compare to Carrier?
>What kind of price difference normally exists between "comparable" Carrier
>and Weather King models (for the furnace only, not installation, and sized
>like the 58MCA-060)? Thanks
>S
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Posted by mrsgator88 on October 26, 2006, 9:20 am
> cARRIER SIMPLY CHANGED TO MODEL NUMBER to 58MCB060. It is available
> Also the 58MSB060 is similar with an insulated cabinet so it is
> quieter.
> Insist on one of those. The 58MCB is the same price as the 58MCA.
> Hope that helps.
> Doug
That does help, Thanks,
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Posted by Eric Houkal on October 27, 2006, 8:21 am
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>> cARRIER SIMPLY CHANGED TO MODEL NUMBER to 58MCB060. It is available
>> Also the 58MSB060 is similar with an insulated cabinet so it is
>> quieter.
>> Insist on one of those. The 58MCB is the same price as the 58MCA.
>> Hope that helps.
>> Doug
>That does help, Thanks,
>S
I am not familiar enough with Carrier model numbers to know what that
one represents, but if it is one of the low end Carriers it should be
pointed out that the Weather King is a far better furnace.Builder
grade Carriers are famous for 10- 12 year rust outs and niggling
little problems like faulty circuit boards, some of their better ones
are not much better. The WK is basically a Rheem with hot surface
ignition and less soundproofing.
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>> well. Attics are usually very hot or very cold, no light, poor access
>> and not real easy for maneuvering in. THEN, whatever it needs you have
>> to climb back out of the attic and make another trip. The access door
>> usually gets lots of dirty hand prints on it. Anything below it,
>> shelves, carpet, etc will always be dirty. Lots of wall scrapes from
>> all the tools, ladders, boot scuff marks and big ol tech butts going
>> up and down that attic. Out of sight, out of mind. Consider about 1/2
>> of its useful live gone as soon as its installed.
>Luckily the attic access is in the laundry room. Attic is stick built, so
>at least your not banging your head on truss beams. I've seen some pretty
>tight installations, at least there's plenty of room to work here. All the
>ladder climbing gets old pretty quick though.
>> A 90%er in an attic is usually a bad idea. Its a condensing furnace
>> (water). Attics can usually get below freezing so the possibility of
>> the furnace condensate freezing is highly likely. Dont forget about
>> the A/C attached to it. Done perfectly and you shouldnt have a
>> problem. Regular maintenance on the coil, pan and drain, having an
>> auxillary pan with a float switch in the pan under the unit and all
>> sloped properly help tremendously.
>What about the A/C attached to it should I remember?