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Posted by Zyp on December 24, 2008, 6:22 pm

Injun Ear wrote:

> Stormin Mormon wrote:

>> I'd start by asking your friends and neighbors what they use. I have
>> a Luxaire (by York) furnace in my trailer. My boss used to install
>> almost exclusively Rheem Contour furnaces, he liked the complicated
>> thermostat that communicates with the furnace. The couple times I've
>> worked on Goodman equipment (formerly called Janitrol) it's been
>> reasonable equipment. Given these three quotes, and no other
>> information, I'd take the Goodman install. Less proprietary parts,
>> and easier to work on.

> Go with the Rheem. They have the Copeland Scroll compressor. I had
> one put in 3 years ago and the only problem I ever had with it was a
> capacitor.

I think every unit has capacitor problems. And I think most condensing
units are now Copland Scroll compliant. [Except the R-22 13.0 SEER track
units.]

But Rheem seems to use rather thin copper on their coils. So does
Aspen......

--
Zyp

Posted by Don Ocean on December 25, 2008, 12:42 am

Injun Ear wrote:

> Stormin Mormon wrote:

>> I'd start by asking your friends and neighbors what they use. I have a
>> Luxaire (by York) furnace in my trailer. My boss used to install
>> almost exclusively Rheem Contour furnaces, he liked the complicated
>> thermostat that communicates with the furnace. The couple times I've
>> worked on Goodman equipment (formerly called Janitrol) it's been
>> reasonable equipment. Given these three quotes, and no other
>> information, I'd take the Goodman install. Less proprietary parts, and
>> easier to work on.

> Go with the Rheem. They have the Copeland Scroll compressor. I had one
> put in 3 years ago and the only problem I ever had with it was a capacitor.

You really shouldn't have any problems in 3 years. But maybe you need
the work?

Posted by Bubba on December 25, 2008, 10:56 am

On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:05:10 -0600, Injun Ear

>Stormin Mormon wrote:

>> I'd start by asking your friends and neighbors what they use. I have a
>> Luxaire (by York) furnace in my trailer. My boss used to install almost
>> exclusively Rheem Contour furnaces, he liked the complicated thermostat that
>> communicates with the furnace. The couple times I've worked on Goodman
>> equipment (formerly called Janitrol) it's been reasonable equipment. Given
>> these three quotes, and no other information, I'd take the Goodman install.
>> Less proprietary parts, and easier to work on.
>>

>Go with the Rheem. They have the Copeland Scroll compressor. I had one
>put in 3 years ago and the only problem I ever had with it was a
>capacitor.

Hey Injun,
Here's a news flash for ya. All but the cheapest of garbage out there
have Copeland scrolls now. Rheen doest have the patent on copeland
scrolls.
Bubba

Posted by Noon-Air on December 25, 2008, 11:01 am

> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:05:10 -0600, Injun Ear

>>Stormin Mormon wrote:

>>> I'd start by asking your friends and neighbors what they use. I have a
>>> Luxaire (by York) furnace in my trailer. My boss used to install almost
>>> exclusively Rheem Contour furnaces, he liked the complicated thermostat
>>> that
>>> communicates with the furnace. The couple times I've worked on Goodman
>>> equipment (formerly called Janitrol) it's been reasonable equipment.
>>> Given
>>> these three quotes, and no other information, I'd take the Goodman
>>> install.
>>> Less proprietary parts, and easier to work on.

>>Go with the Rheem. They have the Copeland Scroll compressor. I had one
>>put in 3 years ago and the only problem I ever had with it was a
>>capacitor.

> Hey Injun,
> Here's a news flash for ya. All but the cheapest of garbage out there
> have Copeland scrolls now. Rheen doest have the patent on copeland
> scrolls.
> Bubba

Rheem has been using scroll compressors for 20 years now... but like Bubba
said, they might have been the first, but.... they don't hold the patents on
the compressors.

Posted by Steve on December 24, 2008, 9:47 pm

> Heating/AC 3 ton 14/15 SEER, 12 EISR
> Goodman vs. Lennox vs. Rheem
> Bid Installed (Easy in and out):
> Goodman (14 Seer): $3682
> Lennox (14 Seer): $4485
> Rheem (15 Seer): $4634
> Natural Gas
> 1711 sq ft house Austin Central TX, vaulted ceilings
> I've checked out installers and they have acceptable BBB ratings.
> Installers working under umbrella TX state contractors license
> Goodman/Lennox: *Airco* = 21 year HVAC Exp per salesman
> Rheem: *Autumn HVAC *Installers* Salesman with 3 years exp. Name of
> installer = Earnest questionable as to experience (7 years?)
> Rheem installer said he wouldn't do a Lennox install "Lennox circuit
> boards
> bad..." "Goodman cheap".
> Signed:
> "Homemoaner" (Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death)
> olddog

Go with the one that actually *DOES* the room-by-room Manual J heat
loss/load calculations to correctly size the system for your home. If you
don't do the math, your only guessing.
As far as *equipment* name brand, check out Consumer Reports..... but when
it comes down to it, the system will last and perform only as well as it was
installed.

You can get it done cheap, or you can get it done right....its your choice.

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