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Posted by dantheman on October 20, 2006, 8:34 am
Can someone please send me the directory that lists "Competent Techs"?
I keep getting this advice to call these people but can't seem to find
the listings. The regular listings in the Yellow Pages don't
distinguish between "medicore", "rip-off", "idiot",
"Guy-whose-buddy-wrote-the-exam-for-him", and "Competent". The ones
that I've called (and spent good money on) have usually fallen into the
former three categories, and frankly, I'd can screw it up for free all
by myself.

Thanks in Advance, Dan


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Posted by New Directions In Building Ser on October 21, 2006, 7:04 am
> Can someone please send me the directory that lists "Competent Techs"?
> I keep getting this advice to call these people but can't seem to find
> the listings. The regular listings in the Yellow Pages don't
> distinguish between "medicore", "rip-off", "idiot",
> "Guy-whose-buddy-wrote-the-exam-for-him", and "Competent". The ones
> that I've called (and spent good money on) have usually fallen into the
> former three categories, and frankly, I'd can screw it up for free all
> by myself.
>
> Thanks in Advance, Dan
>
Firstly you need to identify what you want delivered.
By identifying your delivery as techs - it is presumed that you are talking
about "service technicians"
You should be able to expect service technicians to maintain and repair
existing equipment to a performance level equal to when the unit was
commissioned less some degradation allowance due to aging or operator
misuse.
You should not expect a service technician to be able to design or advise
pertaining to thermal comfort unless that technician has been accredited by
an accreditation body for the specific services provided and have
professional risk insurance cover open to customers to make valid claims to
offset any losses incurred by the customer for failures to the design or
acting upon inappropriate advice.
So if you want to engage a service technician to design or advise on a
thermal comfort system unless the produce a satisfactory certificate of
currency for Professional Indemnity - You the customer are the one being
incompetent.



Posted by shinesapp@hotmail.com on October 21, 2006, 8:01 am
I think the main problem is your using the the phone book
when you take your to be maintained you dont look at a phone book ad
you look at their facility
or go to a dealer that has ASE techs I hope you do assuming you do why
use a phone book contact the manufacture
of your equipment
large companies are not the best they are high volume the have a large
pool of new techs that have little experiance
only two or three good techs if their lucky
when you call ask for a nate certified or rses certified technician
when they arive ask to see there wallet card
alot of homeowners think an EPA certified tech means they know how to
work on equipment but all
a EPA cert is for is to hanndle refrigerant nothing with the service
ability
stop being mad at the industry and put the blame on your self you order
HVAC service like you order pizza
you get a bad pizza your out $10 you get a bad tech your out alot more
then the cost of the service call your utility bill goes up and your
equipment
life goes down. stop being lazzy and do some work to find a good
company to service your system
Call some commercial companies the techs are more experianced and ask
for NATE RSES OR ARI CERT also use some comman sence
if the guy they send is under 28-30 years old you know they do not have
experiance look at it like going to the DR
when a DR gets out of med school you would not let him work on you it
takes 10 yrs before he has hands on experiance
real HVAC/R techs are as smart as DRs are theY know thermodynamics
electricity plumbing it takes along time to develope these
skills I know many technicians that make well over $100,000 year but
every company has only one or two of them and he runs around fixing
all the screw-ups that is why he makes $35-$45 hr and gets 80 hrs in a
week bigger is not better when you select a company


On Oct 21, 7:04 am, "New Directions In Building Services
someone please send me the directory that lists "Competent Techs"?
> > I keep getting this advice to call these people but can't seem to find
> > the listings. The regular listings in the Yellow Pages don't
> > distinguish between "medicore", "rip-off", "idiot",
> > "Guy-whose-buddy-wrote-the-exam-for-him", and "Competent". The ones
> > that I've called (and spent good money on) have usually fallen into the
> > former three categories, and frankly, I'd can screw it up for free all
> > by myself.
>
> > Thanks in Advance, DanFirstly you need to identify what you want delivered.
> By identifying your delivery as techs - it is presumed that you are talking
> about "service technicians"
> You should be able to expect service technicians to maintain and repair
> existing equipment to a performance level equal to when the unit was
> commissioned less some degradation allowance due to aging or operator
> misuse.
> You should not expect a service technician to be able to design or advise
> pertaining to thermal comfort unless that technician has been accredited by
> an accreditation body for the specific services provided and have
> professional risk insurance cover open to customers to make valid claims to
> offset any losses incurred by the customer for failures to the design or
> acting upon inappropriate advice.
> So if you want to engage a service technician to design or advise on a
> thermal comfort system unless the produce a satisfactory certificate of
> currency for Professional Indemnity - You the customer are the one being
> incompetent.


Posted by Bubba on October 21, 2006, 8:20 am
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:04:30 +1000, "New Directions In Building

>> Can someone please send me the directory that lists "Competent Techs"?
>> I keep getting this advice to call these people but can't seem to find
>> the listings. The regular listings in the Yellow Pages don't
>> distinguish between "medicore", "rip-off", "idiot",
>> "Guy-whose-buddy-wrote-the-exam-for-him", and "Competent". The ones
>> that I've called (and spent good money on) have usually fallen into the
>> former three categories, and frankly, I'd can screw it up for free all
>> by myself.
>>
>> Thanks in Advance, Dan
>>

Firstly??
Oh well, at least your CAPS key isnt stuck like some other retard in
here.
Bubba
>Firstly you need to identify what you want delivered.
>By identifying your delivery as techs - it is presumed that you are talking
>about "service technicians"
>You should be able to expect service technicians to maintain and repair
>existing equipment to a performance level equal to when the unit was
>commissioned less some degradation allowance due to aging or operator
>misuse.
>You should not expect a service technician to be able to design or advise
>pertaining to thermal comfort unless that technician has been accredited by
>an accreditation body for the specific services provided and have
>professional risk insurance cover open to customers to make valid claims to
>offset any losses incurred by the customer for failures to the design or
>acting upon inappropriate advice.
>So if you want to engage a service technician to design or advise on a
>thermal comfort system unless the produce a satisfactory certificate of
>currency for Professional Indemnity - You the customer are the one being
>incompetent.
>

Posted by shinesapp@hotmail.com on October 21, 2006, 9:30 am
bubba your so smART

> On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:04:30 +1000, "New Directions In Building
>
> >> Can someone please send me the directory that lists "Competent Techs"?
> >> I keep getting this advice to call these people but can't seem to find
> >> the listings. The regular listings in the Yellow Pages don't
> >> distinguish between "medicore", "rip-off", "idiot",
> >> "Guy-whose-buddy-wrote-the-exam-for-him", and "Competent". The ones
> >> that I've called (and spent good money on) have usually fallen into the
> >> former three categories, and frankly, I'd can screw it up for free all
> >> by myself.
>
> >> Thanks in Advance, DanFirstly??
> Oh well, at least your CAPS key isnt stuck like some other retard in
> here.
> Bubba
>
>
>
> >Firstly you need to identify what you want delivered.
> >By identifying your delivery as techs - it is presumed that you are talking
> >about "service technicians"
> >You should be able to expect service technicians to maintain and repair
> >existing equipment to a performance level equal to when the unit was
> >commissioned less some degradation allowance due to aging or operator
> >misuse.
> >You should not expect a service technician to be able to design or advise
> >pertaining to thermal comfort unless that technician has been accredited by
> >an accreditation body for the specific services provided and have
> >professional risk insurance cover open to customers to make valid claims to
> >offset any losses incurred by the customer for failures to the design or
> >acting upon inappropriate advice.
> >So if you want to engage a service technician to design or advise on a
> >thermal comfort system unless the produce a satisfactory certificate of
> >currency for Professional Indemnity - You the customer are the one being
> >incompetent.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -


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