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Posted by on September 1, 2008, 8:49 pm
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>When a hvac is evacuated and fresh virgin refrigerant is used for
>refilling, I do not see any trained service tech adding oil to the
>system. Fresh refrigerant dos not come with oil to keep the system
>lubricated. In past year, I lost my compressor because the heat pump
>lost its oil two times due to the tube breakage in the condenser unit
>two times. I am very displeased with HVAC trained techs.
>I came to the conclusion that the automobile air conditioning
>technicians pay more attention to the oil in the auto air
>conditioning systems than any trained and certified HVAC
>technicians.
You're just mad because some hack like zyp took advantage of you.And
did I mention you're a dumbass for letting them?
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Posted by KJPRO on September 1, 2008, 9:32 pm
> > Groaner wrote:
> >> On Aug 26, 8:42 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
> >>> You are not likely to get much sympathy from the regular posters,
> >>> here. Except perhaps one or two. That said, the mobile home units
> >>> I've serviced, most of them are a complete unit out side with large
> >>> flex ducts to and from the trailer. I've never heard of replacing
> >>> just the condensor one of those. There is some leak plugger stuff
> >>> made, and sold in some HVAC companies. Sounds like you're a
> >>> candidate to try the leak stuff.
> >>> --
> >>> Christopher A. Young
> >>> Learn more about Jesus
> >>>www.lds.org
> >>> .
> >>> I'll ask the question before going out to check model #, etc. since,
> >>> depending on the answer, all that may be academic. I have a Heil 3.5
> >>> ton unit - probably 20 years old (mobile home). Just replaced the
> >>> compressor a few weeks ago. Now they say I have six leaks in the
> >>> condenser coil. They are saying if they can't find a replacement
> >>> coil,
> >>> I will need a new unit. I am unable to afford one... low fixed
> >>> income, retired. Are there generic condenser coils? Do I need that,
> >>> specific manufacturer's part?
> >>> John
> >> Thanks for the replies. At this point, it is holding coolant for about
> >> 3 weeks before it all leaks out and it freezes up. He said the leaks
> >> are in the small coils and they would just melt if he tried to fix
> >> them. I was really hoping there was a generic condenser that could
> >> replace it. $2800 for a new unit might as well be a million for me. I
> >> live in Florida - I guess we're having fun now (haha).
> >> John
> > Quite frankly my dear.... oh, I'm sorry, I got carried away..
> > - A competent, trained service tech should be able to find, repair and
> > guarantee serviceable leaks on the condenser coil. Can't think of any
> > leaks on a Heil that can't be repaired [even in the tube sheet.] Find a
> > quality service tech who knows WTF they're doing. He will find [in a
> > reasonable amount of time] seal, dehydrate and recharge your unit. [And
> > it's likely he will use the refrigerant he pulled out [recovered] and
> > top
> > it off with virgin gas.]. Good luck.
> Sorry, but you won't find me repairing a leak on a evap or condenser in
> the
> tube sheets! That is just asking for someone to pay big bucks for a repair
> and then PRY it doesn't spring another leak somewhere else... if it's
> leaking one place... it's likely to find it's way out somewhere else.
> Another thing you won't find me doing is using the existing refrigerant on
> a
> leaking system. It gets a proper evacuation and fresh virgin refrigerant.
> I'm not banking me rep on refrigerant that may or may not be pure.- Hide
> quoted text -
When a hvac is evacuated and fresh virgin refrigerant is used for
refilling, I do not see any trained service tech adding oil to the
system. Fresh refrigerant dos not come with oil to keep the system
lubricated. In past year, I lost my compressor because the heat pump
lost its oil two times due to the tube breakage in the condenser unit
two times. I am very displeased with HVAC trained techs.
I came to the conclusion that the automobile air conditioning
technicians pay more attention to the oil in the auto air
conditioning systems than any trained and certified HVAC
technicians.
Guess what... it wasn't the lack of oil that killed your compressor!
Why don't you quit posting inaccurate statements???
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Posted by Noon-Air on September 1, 2008, 10:39 pm
>> > Groaner wrote:
>> >> On Aug 26, 8:42 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
>> >>> You are not likely to get much sympathy from the regular posters,
>> >>> here. Except perhaps one or two. That said, the mobile home units
>> >>> I've serviced, most of them are a complete unit out side with large
>> >>> flex ducts to and from the trailer. I've never heard of replacing
>> >>> just the condensor one of those. There is some leak plugger stuff
>> >>> made, and sold in some HVAC companies. Sounds like you're a
>> >>> candidate to try the leak stuff.
>> >>> --
>> >>> Christopher A. Young
>> >>> Learn more about Jesus
>> >>>www.lds.org
>> >>> .
>> >>> I'll ask the question before going out to check model #, etc. since,
>> >>> depending on the answer, all that may be academic. I have a Heil 3.5
>> >>> ton unit - probably 20 years old (mobile home). Just replaced the
>> >>> compressor a few weeks ago. Now they say I have six leaks in the
>> >>> condenser coil. They are saying if they can't find a replacement
>> >>> coil,
>> >>> I will need a new unit. I am unable to afford one... low fixed
>> >>> income, retired. Are there generic condenser coils? Do I need that,
>> >>> specific manufacturer's part?
>> >>> John
>> >> Thanks for the replies. At this point, it is holding coolant for about
>> >> 3 weeks before it all leaks out and it freezes up. He said the leaks
>> >> are in the small coils and they would just melt if he tried to fix
>> >> them. I was really hoping there was a generic condenser that could
>> >> replace it. $2800 for a new unit might as well be a million for me. I
>> >> live in Florida - I guess we're having fun now (haha).
>> >> John
>> > Quite frankly my dear.... oh, I'm sorry, I got carried away..
>> > - A competent, trained service tech should be able to find, repair and
>> > guarantee serviceable leaks on the condenser coil. Can't think of any
>> > leaks on a Heil that can't be repaired [even in the tube sheet.] Find a
>> > quality service tech who knows WTF they're doing. He will find [in a
>> > reasonable amount of time] seal, dehydrate and recharge your unit. [And
>> > it's likely he will use the refrigerant he pulled out [recovered] and
>> > top
>> > it off with virgin gas.]. Good luck.
>> Sorry, but you won't find me repairing a leak on a evap or condenser in
>> the
>> tube sheets! That is just asking for someone to pay big bucks for a
>> repair
>> and then PRY it doesn't spring another leak somewhere else... if it's
>> leaking one place... it's likely to find it's way out somewhere else.
>> Another thing you won't find me doing is using the existing refrigerant
>> on a
>> leaking system. It gets a proper evacuation and fresh virgin refrigerant.
>> I'm not banking me rep on refrigerant that may or may not be pure.- Hide
>> quoted text -
> When a hvac is evacuated and fresh virgin refrigerant is used for
> refilling, I do not see any trained service tech adding oil to the
> system. Fresh refrigerant dos not come with oil to keep the system
> lubricated. In past year, I lost my compressor because the heat pump
> lost its oil two times due to the tube breakage in the condenser unit
> two times. I am very displeased with HVAC trained techs.
> I came to the conclusion that the automobile air conditioning
> technicians pay more attention to the oil in the auto air
> conditioning systems than any trained and certified HVAC
> technicians.
> Guess what... it wasn't the lack of oil that killed your compressor!
> Why don't you quit posting inaccurate statements???
He doesn't know any better.
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on September 1, 2008, 9:53 pm
That's very signifigant. Was your father paying more attention to your
mother? Is your inner desire to marry your mother, so you can add oil to her
HVAC system?
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
When a hvac is evacuated and fresh virgin refrigerant is used for
refilling, I do not see any trained service tech adding oil to the
system. Fresh refrigerant dos not come with oil to keep the system
lubricated. In past year, I lost my compressor because the heat pump
lost its oil two times due to the tube breakage in the condenser unit
two times. I am very displeased with HVAC trained techs.
I came to the conclusion that the automobile air conditioning
technicians pay more attention to the oil in the auto air
conditioning systems than any trained and certified HVAC
technicians.
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Posted by Nicolas on September 2, 2008, 6:03 pm
Freud wrote:
>>> Groaner wrote:
>>>> On Aug 26, 8:42 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
>>>>> You are not likely to get much sympathy from the regular posters,
>>>>> here. Except perhaps one or two. That said, the mobile home units
>>>>> I've serviced, most of them are a complete unit out side with large
>>>>> flex ducts to and from the trailer. I've never heard of replacing
>>>>> just the condensor one of those. There is some leak plugger stuff
>>>>> made, and sold in some HVAC companies. Sounds like you're a
>>>>> candidate to try the leak stuff.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Christopher A. Young
>>>>> Learn more about Jesus
>>>>> www.lds.org
>>>>> .
>>>>> I'll ask the question before going out to check model #, etc. since,
>>>>> depending on the answer, all that may be academic. I have a Heil 3.5
>>>>> ton unit - probably 20 years old (mobile home). Just replaced the
>>>>> compressor a few weeks ago. Now they say I have six leaks in the
>>>>> condenser coil. They are saying if they can't find a replacement
>>>>> coil,
>>>>> I will need a new unit. I am unable to afford one... low fixed
>>>>> income, retired. Are there generic condenser coils? Do I need that,
>>>>> specific manufacturer's part?
>>>>> John
>>>> Thanks for the replies. At this point, it is holding coolant for about
>>>> 3 weeks before it all leaks out and it freezes up. He said the leaks
>>>> are in the small coils and they would just melt if he tried to fix
>>>> them. I was really hoping there was a generic condenser that could
>>>> replace it. $2800 for a new unit might as well be a million for me. I
>>>> live in Florida - I guess we're having fun now (haha).
>>>> John
>>> Quite frankly my dear.... oh, I'm sorry, I got carried away..
>>> - A competent, trained service tech should be able to find, repair and
>>> guarantee serviceable leaks on the condenser coil. Can't think of any
>>> leaks on a Heil that can't be repaired [even in the tube sheet.] Find a
>>> quality service tech who knows WTF they're doing. He will find [in a
>>> reasonable amount of time] seal, dehydrate and recharge your unit. [And
>>> it's likely he will use the refrigerant he pulled out [recovered] and top
>>> it off with virgin gas.]. Good luck.
>> Sorry, but you won't find me repairing a leak on a evap or condenser in the
>> tube sheets! That is just asking for someone to pay big bucks for a repair
>> and then PRY it doesn't spring another leak somewhere else... if it's
>> leaking one place... it's likely to find it's way out somewhere else.
>> Another thing you won't find me doing is using the existing refrigerant on a
>> leaking system. It gets a proper evacuation and fresh virgin refrigerant.
>> I'm not banking me rep on refrigerant that may or may not be pure.- Hide
quoted text -
>
> When a hvac is evacuated and fresh virgin refrigerant is used for
> refilling, I do not see any trained service tech adding oil to the
> system. Fresh refrigerant dos not come with oil to keep the system
> lubricated. In past year, I lost my compressor because the heat pump
> lost its oil two times due to the tube breakage in the condenser unit
> two times. I am very displeased with HVAC trained techs.
> I came to the conclusion that the automobile air conditioning
> technicians pay more attention to the oil in the auto air
> conditioning systems than any trained and certified HVAC
> technicians.
The oil is usually put in with the initial breaking of the vacuum or
pumped in. The oil cannot be exposed to air. This is not your automotive
service. It is different. R12 and R134A is a lot more forgiving then
R410A(Puron). As fo training ..Every guy with a wrench thinks he is an
expert in Electronics and AC. There are more fuck-ups in the auto
industry then in ours. If ou don't believe it ..check the accident
records. Also see how many Auto guru's are licensed and have insurance.
If your HVAC guy screwed up, you do have recourse. If your just mouthing
off and destroying his reputation, then he has no legal recourse.m Of
course I am old and set in my ways. I would punch your lights out! So
be damned sure you are correct in his service techniques and his
proveable failure to add necessary oil. That compressor could well have
been damage in the initial loss of oil. I bet you didn't shut it down
immediately. It might have run with burned bearings etc until final
end was reached. How long do you drive your car when the oil pan has
broken and lost its oil. About 2 minutes and your engine is out to
lunch. I have held every HVAC license.. And that includes Automotive.
I have made a lot of money on the all knowing that have screwed the
pooch on their own DIYS.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
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>refilling, I do not see any trained service tech adding oil to the
>system. Fresh refrigerant dos not come with oil to keep the system
>lubricated. In past year, I lost my compressor because the heat pump
>lost its oil two times due to the tube breakage in the condenser unit
>two times. I am very displeased with HVAC trained techs.
>I came to the conclusion that the automobile air conditioning
>technicians pay more attention to the oil in the auto air
>conditioning systems than any trained and certified HVAC
>technicians.