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Posted by KJPRO on September 6, 2008, 1:04 pm
Shit snipped...
> You are wrong on that factor, most *normal* people do know what a
> vehicle, insurance, gas costs.
Which is only PAR of the costs of running a business. Sorry, you can't
understand that FACT!
> My estimate of the excessive cost included these factors. If my
> estimate of cost didn't include anything but the time on-site and the
> cost of the capacitor it would've instead been...
Yeah, don't count the drive time, stocking the truck or any other time
consuming aspect of running a legit business.
Oh, don't for get the tons of other cost that you left out...
Liability Insurance, Tool/Inventory insurance, etc...
Any thing to do with the shop, rent, employees, phones, electrical, etc...
> I am leaving,
Please stop posting lies...
> but I can't stand to see people so confused about reality.
Suggest that you look in the mirror, till you figure out you're wrong.
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Posted by Noon-Air on September 7, 2008, 9:13 am
> You are wrong on that factor, most *normal* people do know what a
> vehicle, insurance, gas costs.
> My estimate of the excessive cost included these factors. If my
> estimate of cost didn't include anything but the time on-site and the
> cost of the capacitor it would've instead been...
> Let's say $60/hr like an auto mechanic makes, x 15 minutes, plus $20
> capacitor (making a profit on one still) = $35. That's $65 for
> driving 5 miles, it is more than established government analysis
> determined is the average vehicle costs for driving that distance
> (yes, your tax dollars have determined what it costs to own, maintain
> and drive a vehicle for reimbursment purposes).
the 65 cents a mile that the gov't reimburses is only to offset the cost of
fuel and has nothing to do with the actual cost of operating the vehicle nor
the drivers time, nor the administrative costs. You still don't have a clue.
Try this... add up *ALL* of your vehicles operating expenses for a month...
and keep the reciepts....notes, insurance, tags, repairs, service, wash/wax,
tires etc, and log every trip. Then devide that number by the number of
trips you make by your total vehicle expenses...then add the drivers
time(pluss administrative costs), and that will give you your *TRUE* vehicle
expenses. Report back to us when you have completed this task and tell us
how much money the tech would have lost if all he charged is $100.
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Posted by over a barrel on September 8, 2008, 12:43 am
> > You are wrong on that factor, most *normal* people do know what a
> > vehicle, insurance, gas costs.
> > My estimate of the excessive cost included these factors. If my
> > estimate of cost didn't include anything but the time on-site and the
> > cost of the capacitor it would've instead been...
> > Let's say $60/hr like an auto mechanic makes, x 15 minutes, plus $20
> > capacitor (making a profit on one still) = $35. That's $65 for
> > driving 5 miles, it is more than established government analysis
> > determined is the average vehicle costs for driving that distance
> > (yes, your tax dollars have determined what it costs to own, maintain
> > and drive a vehicle for reimbursment purposes).
> the 65 cents a mile that the gov't reimburses is only to offset the cost
of
> fuel and has nothing to do with the actual cost of operating the vehicle
nor
> the drivers time, nor the administrative costs. You still don't have a
clue.
> Try this... add up *ALL* of your vehicles operating expenses for a
month...
> and keep the reciepts....notes, insurance, tags, repairs, service,
wash/wax,
> tires etc, and log every trip. Then devide that number by the number of
> trips you make by your total vehicle expenses...then add the drivers
> time(pluss administrative costs), and that will give you your *TRUE*
vehicle
> expenses. Report back to us when you have completed this task and tell us
> how much money the tech would have lost if all he charged is $100.
Steve meethinks either you need a better accountant or Im doing something
terribly wrong.
Dunno how you are doing it but here, ALL miles are logged and the EVERY BIT
OF THE ACTUAL COST is written off.
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Posted by Noon-Air on September 8, 2008, 8:18 am
>> > You are wrong on that factor, most *normal* people do know what a
>> > vehicle, insurance, gas costs.
>> > My estimate of the excessive cost included these factors. If my
>> > estimate of cost didn't include anything but the time on-site and the
>> > cost of the capacitor it would've instead been...
>> > Let's say $60/hr like an auto mechanic makes, x 15 minutes, plus $20
>> > capacitor (making a profit on one still) = $35. That's $65 for
>> > driving 5 miles, it is more than established government analysis
>> > determined is the average vehicle costs for driving that distance
>> > (yes, your tax dollars have determined what it costs to own, maintain
>> > and drive a vehicle for reimbursment purposes).
>> the 65 cents a mile that the gov't reimburses is only to offset the cost
> of
>> fuel and has nothing to do with the actual cost of operating the vehicle
> nor
>> the drivers time, nor the administrative costs. You still don't have a
> clue.
>> Try this... add up *ALL* of your vehicles operating expenses for a
> month...
>> and keep the reciepts....notes, insurance, tags, repairs, service,
> wash/wax,
>> tires etc, and log every trip. Then devide that number by the number of
>> trips you make by your total vehicle expenses...then add the drivers
>> time(pluss administrative costs), and that will give you your *TRUE*
> vehicle
>> expenses. Report back to us when you have completed this task and tell us
>> how much money the tech would have lost if all he charged is $100.
> Steve meethinks either you need a better accountant or Im doing something
> terribly wrong.
> Dunno how you are doing it but here, ALL miles are logged and the EVERY
> BIT
> OF THE ACTUAL COST is written off.
It still has to be bought and paid for *before* it can be written off.
It doesn't help that revenues have slowed considerably, and costs have
increased, yet the base service call rate cannot increase because folks are
calling the cheapest fly-by-night, instead of paying a couple of dollars
more to get it done right the first time.
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Posted by Zyp on September 10, 2008, 2:23 pm
over a barrel wrote:
>>> You are wrong on that factor, most *normal* people do know what a
>>> vehicle, insurance, gas costs.
>>> My estimate of the excessive cost included these factors. If my
>>> estimate of cost didn't include anything but the time on-site and
>>> the cost of the capacitor it would've instead been...
>>> Let's say $60/hr like an auto mechanic makes, x 15 minutes, plus $20
>>> capacitor (making a profit on one still) = $35. That's $65 for
>>> driving 5 miles, it is more than established government analysis
>>> determined is the average vehicle costs for driving that distance
>>> (yes, your tax dollars have determined what it costs to own,
>>> maintain and drive a vehicle for reimbursment purposes).
>> the 65 cents a mile that the gov't reimburses is only to offset the
>> cost of fuel and has nothing to do with the actual cost of operating
>> the vehicle nor the drivers time, nor the administrative costs. You
>> still don't have a clue. Try this... add up *ALL* of your vehicles
>> operating expenses for a month... and keep the reciepts....notes,
>> insurance, tags, repairs, service, wash/wax, tires etc, and log
>> every trip. Then devide that number by the number of trips you make
>> by your total vehicle expenses...then add the drivers time(pluss
>> administrative costs), and that will give you your *TRUE* vehicle
>> expenses. Report back to us when you have completed this task and
>> tell us how much money the tech would have lost if all he charged is
>> $100.
> Steve meethinks either you need a better accountant or Im doing
> something terribly wrong.
> Dunno how you are doing it but here, ALL miles are logged and the
> EVERY BIT OF THE ACTUAL COST is written off.
> --
I love it when someone says "you can write it off." What does that mean.
Let me see, that doesn't mean it's "free", it means I still had to pay the
money out...... from any profit that I might have made. Does it mean the
government will pay it? Nope. What it means is I don't have to pay income
tax on [that] money. I still have to pay the cost, just not the tax since
it is a part of the 'cost of doing business.' But I still have to pay for
the 'write off.' :( I'd prefer not to pay it at all.
--
Zyp
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