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Posted by Noon-Air on September 28, 2007, 3:36 pm
> Bubba wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:53:31 -0700, SacTech wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I am looking to replace a 40 year old furnace that is still holding
>>>>> on, and an air conditioner in slightly better shape. Our local
>>>>> electricity company (SMUD - in Sacramento, CA), is offering financing
>>>>> on a system with no money down and reasonable monthly rates. The
>>>>> system would be a 2.5 ton 15 seer air conditioner (ASX14 - i'm told it
>>>>> would be 15 seer with the new furnace in place), with an Amana 96%
>>>>> efficent variable speed furnace (AMV9). It would also cover checking
>>>>> and fixing any leaking ducts and a new thermostat. After all rebates/
>>>>> tax refunds etc. the total cost with install would be $9,050, or $107/
>>>>> month. It sounds like a good system but the cost seems a bit high.
>>>>> Does this sound reasonable for a new system in a relatively moderate
>>>>> climate of the central valley or should I keep looking?
>>>> Wake up and smell the coffee sport, Your getting a deal.... your should
>>>> look into dual-fuel
>>>
>>> Call these guys, they will get you a better system and a much better
>>> deal.
>>>
>>> http://www.rayocook.com
>>
>> Just who I'd want. A company that advertises they will beat ANY
>> estimate by $150.
>> Also no address listed.
>> Sounds like they will do their very best to cut any corner they can.
>> Bubba
>
> Since when does paying the most for an item, labor or material, assure one
> of getting the most for their money?
I for one never advocate paying "the most", but I do advocate paying to get
it done right the first time, with a decent warranty, by somebody who
actually knows what they are doing.
> I have read many comments by the so called "experts" of this group.
> Almost invariably they contend that it is the buyer's fault when poor work
> or poor quality parts were installed.
*USUALLY* its the buyers fault for going with the cheapest price without
consideration of anything else. There is a reason they are told to do their
homework.
> I suggest it is the fault of the installer who is supposed to be the
> knowledgeable one, and is being paid for that knowledge by the customer.
The fault is in using the lowest bidder so the customer can pay the tech to
gain the knowledge and experience they are supposed to have, instead of
paying for a knowledgeable and experienced tech.
> Posters are coming here asking for opinions of the "experts." If you
> truly ARE one, you should be honored.
Occasionally posters come for opinions... but most are looking to get it
done for free and get their panties in a wad because they are not told what
they want to hear. Can you look through your 'puter screen and tell if they
are *capable* of doing the job without causing dammage to life, limb, and/or
property??
> You should read your posted comments, and you would understand why there
> is so much distrust of those in your profession.
The distrust is because of getting screwed by the lowest bidder, and their
crappy workmanship. Then there are the big companies that send out
SALESnitions instead of TECHnicians.....the home-owner gets screwed into
believing their 5 year old system is garbage because it had a leaky evap
coil because it wasn't installed correctly and they need to replace it.
There is a local Trane dealer here that is good for that, along with the
miriad of unlicensed, uninsured techs that only work outside of the city
limits because there is no code enforcement outside the city limits.
> YOU and your kind do nothing to dispel that opinion. Now go ahead and
> tell me to buy a thermostat, or open up your vulgarity spigot. It will
> only reinforce the general belief.
The only general belief that I have is that 1) your trying to stir the pot,
and 2) you don't have a clue as to whats happening in the real world, and 3)
you have nothing to do with the trade.
Now... don't go away mad, just go away.
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