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DIY Hydronic Installation mchenry 04-13-2007
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Posted by B-Hate-Me on April 14, 2007, 12:18 pm

>
> I looked on Amazon and there is at least one book on radiant floor
> heat. Also, Fine Homebuilding or the Journal of Light Construction
> might have articles on it. You're right, it isn't rocket science.
> You will need to come up with a design, though this typically is
> tubing run 12" oc and no loops over 300 feet. I think the reverse
> spiral is the prefered layout. I prefer to staple the tubes to the
> foam and put any reinforement over the tubes--this lessens the chance
> of a tube floating up and later being hit by a drill or something.
> Good Luck.

THIS is why I advertise so heavily for SERVICE.

Just give me a call when you want it fixed.



Posted by mchenry on April 14, 2007, 10:33 pm
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:40:01 -0700, marson wrote:

>> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:54:42 -0500, kjpro wrote:
>>
>> >> Can anyone advise me on the installation of hydronic coils before a slab
>> >> is poured ?
>>
>> >> We are building a new home and I have costed the Rehau 16mm PEX totalling
>> >> $6,000 for 550 sqm. This is working on 5m per sqm equalling 2750m.
>>
>> >> On a sqm basis this is approx $11 however every quotation I have received
>> >> is approx $50-$55 per sqm to supply & lay the pipe prior to having the
>> >> slab poured.
>>
>> >> So it will cost me upwards of $21,450 for the installer to design the
>> >> layout and attach the pipe to the mesh prior to the pour !
>>
>> >> As it cannot be rocket science and well worth the savings are there any
>> >> DIY guides available for potential pitfalls and design etc.
>>
>> >> Thanks in advance...
>>
>> > Just remember, when you do it wrong...
>>
>> > IT WILL BE VERY EXPENSIVE TO REDO!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Not WHEN but only IF
>
> I looked on Amazon and there is at least one book on radiant floor
> heat. Also, Fine Homebuilding or the Journal of Light Construction
> might have articles on it. You're right, it isn't rocket science.
> You will need to come up with a design, though this typically is
> tubing run 12" oc and no loops over 300 feet. I think the reverse
> spiral is the prefered layout. I prefer to staple the tubes to the
> foam and put any reinforement over the tubes--this lessens the chance
> of a tube floating up and later being hit by a drill or something.
> Good Luck.


Thanks for the pointers, after much research I am confident to proceed.

After reading many of the replies to this thread I can also appreciate why
many would consider this "rocket science" however most of these
individuals would also consider the complexity of tying their shoe laces
rocket science.

DIY at www.radiantcompany.com/


Posted by mchenry on April 14, 2007, 9:57 am
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 02:52:33 +0000, mchenry wrote:

> Can anyone advise me on the installation of hydronic coils before a slab
> is poured ?
>
> We are building a new home and I have costed the Rehau 16mm PEX totalling
> $6,000 for 550 sqm. This is working on 5m per sqm equalling 2750m.
>
> On a sqm basis this is approx $11 however every quotation I have received
> is approx $50-$55 per sqm to supply & lay the pipe prior to having the
> slab poured.
>
> So it will cost me upwards of $21,450 for the installer to design the
> layout and attach the pipe to the mesh prior to the pour !
>
> As it cannot be rocket science and well worth the savings are there any
> DIY guides available for potential pitfalls and design etc.
>
> Thanks in advance...


Found this that may be of use to anyone in the same situation as me...
thinking of DIY :)

www.radiantcompany.com/manual/Manual-Edition8.pdf


Posted by Bubba on April 14, 2007, 10:57 am
wrote:

>Can anyone advise me on the installation of hydronic coils before a slab
>is poured ?
>
>We are building a new home and I have costed the Rehau 16mm PEX totalling
>$6,000 for 550 sqm. This is working on 5m per sqm equalling 2750m.
>
>On a sqm basis this is approx $11 however every quotation I have received
>is approx $50-$55 per sqm to supply & lay the pipe prior to having the
>slab poured.
>
>So it will cost me upwards of $21,450 for the installer to design the
>layout and attach the pipe to the mesh prior to the pour !
>
>As it cannot be rocket science and well worth the savings are there any
>DIY guides available for potential pitfalls and design etc.
>
>Thanks in advance...

Think about it junior. $21,450 to do your job. A lot of money? I
wonder why? You're thinking $11 per sqm but low and behold all the
professionals are right about the same at $50 to $55 per sqm. Gee,
maybe they all got together and fixed their prices just so they could
screw you? Seems logical.......................you dolt.
Keep this in mind. YOU are going to design and install your own
$21,450 job that of which you have never done before. I hope you
understand how much fun busting up all that concrete and redoing it
again the right way will cost. It ought to make $21,450 look like
pocket change.
Bubba

Posted by marson on April 14, 2007, 12:45 pm
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Can anyone advise me on the installation of hydronic coils before a slab
> >is poured ?
>
> >We are building a new home and I have costed the Rehau 16mm PEX totalling
> >$6,000 for 550 sqm. This is working on 5m per sqm equalling 2750m.
>
> >On a sqm basis this is approx $11 however every quotation I have received
> >is approx $50-$55 per sqm to supply & lay the pipe prior to having the
> >slab poured.
>
> >So it will cost me upwards of $21,450 for the installer to design the
> >layout and attach the pipe to the mesh prior to the pour !
>
> >As it cannot be rocket science and well worth the savings are there any
> >DIY guides available for potential pitfalls and design etc.
>
> >Thanks in advance...
>
> Think about it junior. $21,450 to do your job. A lot of money? I
> wonder why? You're thinking $11 per sqm but low and behold all the
> professionals are right about the same at $50 to $55 per sqm. Gee,
> maybe they all got together and fixed their prices just so they could
> screw you? Seems logical.......................you dolt.
> Keep this in mind. YOU are going to design and install your own
> $21,450 job that of which you have never done before. I hope you
> understand how much fun busting up all that concrete and redoing it
> again the right way will cost. It ought to make $21,450 look like
> pocket change.
> Bubba

Please provide example of a screw up that would cause a slab with
radiant heat to need to be jackhammered up.


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