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Posted by Justin on November 5, 2007, 9:14 am
I have recently purchased a home with a 20+ year old Weil-McLean oil
burning hot-water baseboards heating system.
This probably sounds crazy, and based on the fact I could find
virtually no DIY install guides, is installing a furnace a simple
process that a guy can do on his own?
If your replacing an old furnace with a similar new furnace (hot-water
heat oil burning), is it as simple as installing a new hot water
heater? Detach everything from the old and attach it to the new?
Follow verbatim included instructions?
My hvac/plumbing knowledge extent is sweating pipe. Other than that
I'm good at reading :)
The only reason I ask, is it seems from what I've heard, most jobs are
billed approximately double the cost of the furnace. ($4k furnace =
$8k after install) in southern, NY.
A couple k's are worth taking pretty considerable risk and suffering
frustration (short of burning down my house).
After seeing the cost of furnaces from a HVAC supplier when purchasing
slant/fin baseboards (which I did replace myself, easy enough,
although again, all existing materials were simply replaced, nothing
new was added), it seemed substantially cheaper than what most people
have paid.
Thoughts?
All opinions are appreciated, even if it's just to call me a
cheapskate moron who has no right in a HVAC forum :)
Thanks,
Justin
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Posted by Noon-Air on November 5, 2007, 9:52 am
>I have recently purchased a home with a 20+ year old Weil-McLean oil
> burning hot-water baseboards heating system.
> This probably sounds crazy, and based on the fact I could find
> virtually no DIY install guides, is installing a furnace a simple
> process that a guy can do on his own?
There is a reason for this. Ask you local building/mechanical inspector, and
your home-owners insurance agent why.
> If your replacing an old furnace with a similar new furnace (hot-water
> heat oil burning), is it as simple as installing a new hot water
> heater? Detach everything from the old and attach it to the new?
> Follow verbatim included instructions?
Ummm....no. Not even close.
> My hvac/plumbing knowledge extent is sweating pipe. Other than that
> I'm good at reading :)
Then your nowhere near quilified to attempt this project.
> The only reason I ask, is it seems from what I've heard, most jobs are
> billed approximately double the cost of the furnace. ($4k furnace =
> $8k after install) in southern, NY.
Ya think there is a reason for this?? like maybe the simple fact that *MOST*
manufacturers will void any and all warranties on equipment that was not
installed by a bonified licensed contractor.
> A couple k's are worth taking pretty considerable risk and suffering
> frustration (short of burning down my house).
You said it, not me.
> After seeing the cost of furnaces from a HVAC supplier when purchasing
> slant/fin baseboards (which I did replace myself, easy enough,
> although again, all existing materials were simply replaced, nothing
> new was added), it seemed substantially cheaper than what most people
> have paid.
Baseboards are a site different than a boiler or furnace.
> Thoughts?
Spend the $$$ and get it done right the first time, make sure a permit is
pulled and the inspection is done.
> All opinions are appreciated, even if it's just to call me a
> cheapskate moron who has no right in a HVAC forum :)
You already said it.
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
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Posted by Bubba on November 5, 2007, 11:21 am
wrote:
>I have recently purchased a home with a 20+ year old Weil-McLean oil
>burning hot-water baseboards heating system.
>This probably sounds crazy, and based on the fact I could find
>virtually no DIY install guides, is installing a furnace a simple
>process that a guy can do on his own?
>If your replacing an old furnace with a similar new furnace (hot-water
>heat oil burning), is it as simple as installing a new hot water
>heater? Detach everything from the old and attach it to the new?
>Follow verbatim included instructions?
>My hvac/plumbing knowledge extent is sweating pipe. Other than that
>I'm good at reading :)
>The only reason I ask, is it seems from what I've heard, most jobs are
>billed approximately double the cost of the furnace. ($4k furnace =
>$8k after install) in southern, NY.
>A couple k's are worth taking pretty considerable risk and suffering
>frustration (short of burning down my house).
>After seeing the cost of furnaces from a HVAC supplier when purchasing
>slant/fin baseboards (which I did replace myself, easy enough,
>although again, all existing materials were simply replaced, nothing
>new was added), it seemed substantially cheaper than what most people
>have paid.
>Thoughts?
>All opinions are appreciated, even if it's just to call me a
>cheapskate moron who has no right in a HVAC forum :)
>Thanks,
> Justin
Justin,
A new oil burner is a snap to install. It even comes with installation
instructions. So easy, any idiot can do it. Paying someone 4K to
install one is nothing but a rip off. Hell, after all, oil runs from
the tank to the electrodes and burns. How hard can that be? It's not
rocket science you know?
$4K is easily worth the gamble of yours and your familys' life. Its
very apparent your life aint worth diddly according to your well
informed post.
Happy piping...........
Bubba
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Posted by Bob Pietrangelo on November 5, 2007, 1:26 pm
It's not a furnace, it's a boiler
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> wrote:
>>I have recently purchased a home with a 20+ year old Weil-McLean oil
>>burning hot-water baseboards heating system.
>>This probably sounds crazy, and based on the fact I could find
>>virtually no DIY install guides, is installing a furnace a simple
>>process that a guy can do on his own?
>>If your replacing an old furnace with a similar new furnace (hot-water
>>heat oil burning), is it as simple as installing a new hot water
>>heater? Detach everything from the old and attach it to the new?
>>Follow verbatim included instructions?
>>My hvac/plumbing knowledge extent is sweating pipe. Other than that
>>I'm good at reading :)
>>The only reason I ask, is it seems from what I've heard, most jobs are
>>billed approximately double the cost of the furnace. ($4k furnace =
>>$8k after install) in southern, NY.
>>A couple k's are worth taking pretty considerable risk and suffering
>>frustration (short of burning down my house).
>>After seeing the cost of furnaces from a HVAC supplier when purchasing
>>slant/fin baseboards (which I did replace myself, easy enough,
>>although again, all existing materials were simply replaced, nothing
>>new was added), it seemed substantially cheaper than what most people
>>have paid.
>>Thoughts?
>>All opinions are appreciated, even if it's just to call me a
>>cheapskate moron who has no right in a HVAC forum :)
>>Thanks,
>> Justin
> Justin,
> A new oil burner is a snap to install. It even comes with installation
> instructions. So easy, any idiot can do it. Paying someone 4K to
> install one is nothing but a rip off. Hell, after all, oil runs from
> the tank to the electrodes and burns. How hard can that be? It's not
> rocket science you know?
> $4K is easily worth the gamble of yours and your familys' life. Its
> very apparent your life aint worth diddly according to your well
> informed post.
> Happy piping...........
> Bubba
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Posted by on November 5, 2007, 2:38 pm
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:26:04 -0500, "Bob Pietrangelo"
>It's not a furnace, it's a boiler
What does it boil ?
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> burning hot-water baseboards heating system.
> This probably sounds crazy, and based on the fact I could find
> virtually no DIY install guides, is installing a furnace a simple
> process that a guy can do on his own?