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DIY Install of new oil burning furnace? Justin 11-05-2007
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Posted by Justin on November 6, 2007, 12:42 pm
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >I have recently purchased a home with a 20+ year old Weil-McLean oil
> >burning hot-water baseboards heating system.
>
> >This probably sounds crazy, and based on the fact I could find
> >virtually no DIY install guides, is installing a furnace a simple
> >process that a guy can do on his own?
>
> >If your replacing an old furnace with a similar new furnace (hot-water
> >heat oil burning), is it as simple as installing a new hot water
> >heater? Detach everything from the old and attach it to the new?
> >Follow verbatim included instructions?
>
> >My hvac/plumbing knowledge extent is sweating pipe. Other than that
> >I'm good at reading :)
>
> >The only reason I ask, is it seems from what I've heard, most jobs are
> >billed approximately double the cost of the furnace. ($4k furnace =
> >$8k after install) in southern, NY.
>
> >A couple k's are worth taking pretty considerable risk and suffering
> >frustration (short of burning down my house).
>
> >After seeing the cost of furnaces from a HVAC supplier when purchasing
> >slant/fin baseboards (which I did replace myself, easy enough,
> >although again, all existing materials were simply replaced, nothing
> >new was added), it seemed substantially cheaper than what most people
> >have paid.
>
> >Thoughts?
>
> >All opinions are appreciated, even if it's just to call me a
> >cheapskate moron who has no right in a HVAC forum :)
>
> >Thanks,
> > Justin
>

> $4K is easily worth the gamble of yours and your familys' life. Its
> very apparent your life aint worth diddly according to your well
> informed post.

The irony is I'd imagine most men in this forum wouldn't hesitate for
a second to replace a leaky rusty fuel tank on their car, or perhaps
even rebuild an engine "just for the fun of it". Then propel
themselves and their family at 70mph atop 20 gallons of highly
explosive/flammable gasoline. Furthermore, all without the attention
of an ACE Certified Automotive Technician.

Does the average 4-cylinder engine have more parts than a boiler?

Most importantly analyzing the parallel between the two, a 16 year old
who succesfully rebuilds his car gets a pat on the back! Apparantly,
if the same kid installs a boiler he's a maniacal lunatic looking to
kill himself and his family.

Than again, it's discouraged we perform surgery on ourselves, but I
can't help but think a doctor completes at the very least 8-years of
intense studies prior to diggin in with the scalpal.



Just a thought.



Posted by Bubba on November 6, 2007, 2:22 pm

>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >I have recently purchased a home with a 20+ year old Weil-McLean oil
>> >burning hot-water baseboards heating system.
>>
>> >This probably sounds crazy, and based on the fact I could find
>> >virtually no DIY install guides, is installing a furnace a simple
>> >process that a guy can do on his own?
>>
>> >If your replacing an old furnace with a similar new furnace (hot-water
>> >heat oil burning), is it as simple as installing a new hot water
>> >heater? Detach everything from the old and attach it to the new?
>> >Follow verbatim included instructions?
>>
>> >My hvac/plumbing knowledge extent is sweating pipe. Other than that
>> >I'm good at reading :)
>>
>> >The only reason I ask, is it seems from what I've heard, most jobs are
>> >billed approximately double the cost of the furnace. ($4k furnace =
>> >$8k after install) in southern, NY.
>>
>> >A couple k's are worth taking pretty considerable risk and suffering
>> >frustration (short of burning down my house).
>>
>> >After seeing the cost of furnaces from a HVAC supplier when purchasing
>> >slant/fin baseboards (which I did replace myself, easy enough,
>> >although again, all existing materials were simply replaced, nothing
>> >new was added), it seemed substantially cheaper than what most people
>> >have paid.
>>
>> >Thoughts?
>>
>> >All opinions are appreciated, even if it's just to call me a
>> >cheapskate moron who has no right in a HVAC forum :)
>>
>> >Thanks,
>> > Justin
>>
>
>> $4K is easily worth the gamble of yours and your familys' life. Its
>> very apparent your life aint worth diddly according to your well
>> informed post.
>
>The irony is I'd imagine most men in this forum wouldn't hesitate for
>a second to replace a leaky rusty fuel tank on their car, or perhaps
>even rebuild an engine "just for the fun of it". Then propel
>themselves and their family at 70mph atop 20 gallons of highly
>explosive/flammable gasoline. Furthermore, all without the attention
>of an ACE Certified Automotive Technician.
>
>Does the average 4-cylinder engine have more parts than a boiler?
>
>Most importantly analyzing the parallel between the two, a 16 year old
>who succesfully rebuilds his car gets a pat on the back! Apparantly,
>if the same kid installs a boiler he's a maniacal lunatic looking to
>kill himself and his family.
>
>Than again, it's discouraged we perform surgery on ourselves, but I
>can't help but think a doctor completes at the very least 8-years of
>intense studies prior to diggin in with the scalpal.
>
>
>
>Just a thought.
>
You thought wrong. Im a certified HVAC mechanic and owner of the
company. Im not an engine mechanic. I let my Ford dealer take care of
my company van repairs and my Honda dealer take care of my mini-van.
I dont want to change or install a gas tank, fuel pump, spark plugs or
anything else. I also dont know and dont care if a 4 cylinder engine
has more parts than a boiler. I'll stick to what I know.
Bubba

Posted by Zyp on November 8, 2007, 3:54 pm
Justin wrote:
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I have recently purchased a home with a 20+ year old Weil-McLean oil
>>> burning hot-water baseboards heating system.
>>
>>> This probably sounds crazy, and based on the fact I could find
>>> virtually no DIY install guides, is installing a furnace a simple
>>> process that a guy can do on his own?
>>
>>> If your replacing an old furnace with a similar new furnace
>>> (hot-water heat oil burning), is it as simple as installing a new
>>> hot water heater? Detach everything from the old and attach it to
>>> the new? Follow verbatim included instructions?
>>
>>> My hvac/plumbing knowledge extent is sweating pipe. Other than that
>>> I'm good at reading :)
>>
>>> The only reason I ask, is it seems from what I've heard, most jobs
>>> are billed approximately double the cost of the furnace. ($4k
>>> furnace = $8k after install) in southern, NY.
>>
>>> A couple k's are worth taking pretty considerable risk and suffering
>>> frustration (short of burning down my house).
>>
>>> After seeing the cost of furnaces from a HVAC supplier when
>>> purchasing slant/fin baseboards (which I did replace myself, easy
>>> enough, although again, all existing materials were simply
>>> replaced, nothing new was added), it seemed substantially cheaper
>>> than what most people have paid.
>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>
>>> All opinions are appreciated, even if it's just to call me a
>>> cheapskate moron who has no right in a HVAC forum :)
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Justin
>>
>
>> $4K is easily worth the gamble of yours and your familys' life. Its
>> very apparent your life aint worth diddly according to your well
>> informed post.
>
> The irony is I'd imagine most men in this forum wouldn't hesitate for
> a second to replace a leaky rusty fuel tank on their car, or perhaps
> even rebuild an engine "just for the fun of it". Then propel
> themselves and their family at 70mph atop 20 gallons of highly
> explosive/flammable gasoline. Furthermore, all without the attention
> of an ACE Certified Automotive Technician.
>
> Does the average 4-cylinder engine have more parts than a boiler?
>
> Most importantly analyzing the parallel between the two, a 16 year old
> who succesfully rebuilds his car gets a pat on the back! Apparantly,
> if the same kid installs a boiler he's a maniacal lunatic looking to
> kill himself and his family.
>
> Than again, it's discouraged we perform surgery on ourselves, but I
> can't help but think a doctor completes at the very least 8-years of
> intense studies prior to diggin in with the scalpal.
>
>
>
> Just a thought.

Actually 6, the last two years are internship.

--
Zyp



Posted by Stormin Mormon on November 5, 2007, 9:08 pm
There's a lot to installing a boiler. Especially an oil fired one. I've been
the Fetch on a couple of oil fired boiler installs, and I'd not want to
tackle one on my own without that experience. Too many things to know, and
to do.

--

Christopher A. Young
.
.

I have recently purchased a home with a 20+ year old Weil-McLean oil
burning hot-water baseboards heating system.

This probably sounds crazy, and based on the fact I could find
virtually no DIY install guides, is installing a furnace a simple
process that a guy can do on his own?

If your replacing an old furnace with a similar new furnace (hot-water
heat oil burning), is it as simple as installing a new hot water
heater? Detach everything from the old and attach it to the new?
Follow verbatim included instructions?

My hvac/plumbing knowledge extent is sweating pipe. Other than that
I'm good at reading :)

The only reason I ask, is it seems from what I've heard, most jobs are
billed approximately double the cost of the furnace. ($4k furnace =
$8k after install) in southern, NY.

A couple k's are worth taking pretty considerable risk and suffering
frustration (short of burning down my house).

After seeing the cost of furnaces from a HVAC supplier when purchasing
slant/fin baseboards (which I did replace myself, easy enough,
although again, all existing materials were simply replaced, nothing
new was added), it seemed substantially cheaper than what most people
have paid.

Thoughts?

All opinions are appreciated, even if it's just to call me a
cheapskate moron who has no right in a HVAC forum :)

Thanks,
Justin



Posted by Zyp on November 5, 2007, 9:12 pm
Stormin Mormon wrote:
> There's a lot to installing a boiler. Especially an oil fired one.
> I've been the Fetch on a couple of oil fired boiler installs, and I'd
> not want to tackle one on my own without that experience. Too many
> things to know, and to do.
>
> --
>
> Christopher A. Young
> .
> .
>
> I have recently purchased a home with a 20+ year old Weil-McLean oil
> burning hot-water baseboards heating system.
>
> This probably sounds crazy, and based on the fact I could find
> virtually no DIY install guides, is installing a furnace a simple
> process that a guy can do on his own?
>
> If your replacing an old furnace with a similar new furnace (hot-water
> heat oil burning), is it as simple as installing a new hot water
> heater? Detach everything from the old and attach it to the new?
> Follow verbatim included instructions?
>
> My hvac/plumbing knowledge extent is sweating pipe. Other than that
> I'm good at reading :)
>
> The only reason I ask, is it seems from what I've heard, most jobs are
> billed approximately double the cost of the furnace. ($4k furnace =
> $8k after install) in southern, NY.
>
> A couple k's are worth taking pretty considerable risk and suffering
> frustration (short of burning down my house).
>
> After seeing the cost of furnaces from a HVAC supplier when purchasing
> slant/fin baseboards (which I did replace myself, easy enough,
> although again, all existing materials were simply replaced, nothing
> new was added), it seemed substantially cheaper than what most people
> have paid.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> All opinions are appreciated, even if it's just to call me a
> cheapskate moron who has no right in a HVAC forum :)
>
> Thanks,
> Justin

Ok, I give up! What's a "Fetch?"

--
Zyp



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