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Does Amana put TXVs in any outdoor units; wire grill vs. metal louvers; Amana RHF spearingusenet 08-20-2006
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Posted by Noon-Air on August 20, 2006, 1:30 pm

>
>
>>
>> FWIW, I would highly recommend that your new system(regardless of brand)
>> uses R-410a refrigerant.
>
> What advantages do you think that it has over 22a. Some sugggest
> availability and 410a is the newest on the block. Yes 22a will
> diminish in new units but like its predecessor, 22a will not dissapear
> for maintenance. What other reasons make you think 410a is the way to
> go?

http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/phaseout/hcfc.html

> S.
>
>>
>> > In the same way that a good installer will add value, I believe that I
>> > can add value as the customer by knowing the facts.
>>
>> Now all you have to find is a *competent*, licensed, insured,
>> professionally
>> trained, HVAC technician to do the installation.
>



Posted by on August 20, 2006, 1:41 pm

Noon-Air wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> FWIW, I would highly recommend that your new system(regardless of brand)
> >> uses R-410a refrigerant.
> >
> > What advantages do you think that it has over 22a. Some sugggest
> > availability and 410a is the newest on the block. Yes 22a will
> > diminish in new units but like its predecessor, 22a will not dissapear
> > for maintenance. What other reasons make you think 410a is the way to
> > go?
>
> http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/phaseout/hcfc.html
>

Excellent Link. Thanks. ...and for letting me know what the Rheem has
from the factory.

Whats your point of view on the whole Puron scam thing? Lots of people
have spoken about equipment failures with 410a but I don't buy it given
the warranties that are being offered.

S.


Posted by tech on August 20, 2006, 1:52 pm

>
> Noon-Air wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> FWIW, I would highly recommend that your new system(regardless of
brand)
> > >> uses R-410a refrigerant.
> > >
> > > What advantages do you think that it has over 22a. Some sugggest
> > > availability and 410a is the newest on the block. Yes 22a will
> > > diminish in new units but like its predecessor, 22a will not dissapear
> > > for maintenance. What other reasons make you think 410a is the way to
> > > go?
> >
> > http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/phaseout/hcfc.html
> >
>
> Excellent Link. Thanks. ...and for letting me know what the Rheem has
> from the factory.
>
> Whats your point of view on the whole Puron scam thing? Lots of people
> have spoken about equipment failures with 410a but I don't buy it given
> the warranties that are being offered.
>
> S.

Go with the proven R22 system. Why pay more for a 410 system when 22 will be
around for a very long time? You can still buy 12 and there is already
dropin replacements for R22 on the market today. No matter what, it's going
to depend greatly on the installer you chose to install your system. A
crappy install equals a crappy system that will offer you crappy reliability
and crappy comfort.



Posted by Noon-Air on August 20, 2006, 3:39 pm

>
>>
>> Noon-Air wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> FWIW, I would highly recommend that your new system(regardless of
> brand)
>> > >> uses R-410a refrigerant.
>> > >
>> > > What advantages do you think that it has over 22a. Some sugggest
>> > > availability and 410a is the newest on the block. Yes 22a will
>> > > diminish in new units but like its predecessor, 22a will not
>> > > dissapear
>> > > for maintenance. What other reasons make you think 410a is the way
>> > > to
>> > > go?
>> >
>> > http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/phaseout/hcfc.html
>> >
>>
>> Excellent Link. Thanks. ...and for letting me know what the Rheem has
>> from the factory.
>>
>> Whats your point of view on the whole Puron scam thing? Lots of people
>> have spoken about equipment failures with 410a but I don't buy it given
>> the warranties that are being offered.
>>
>> S.
>
> Go with the proven R22 system. Why pay more for a 410 system when 22 will
> be
> around for a very long time? You can still buy 12 and there is already
> dropin replacements for R22 on the market today. No matter what, it's
> going
> to depend greatly on the installer you chose to install your system. A
> crappy install equals a crappy system that will offer you crappy
> reliability
> and crappy comfort.

<sigh>
Somebody else who hasn't done their homework, or gone to the training and
classes for the new equipment. Apparently you don't actually sell R-410a
equipment, A Rheem14 SEER R-410a heat pump system cost the customer LESS
than the same system in a R-22 13 SEER. . OTOH, If your just a "gas and go"
kinda guy, you can do what you want, in just a couple of short years you
won't have a choice.



Posted by tech on August 20, 2006, 4:01 pm

>
> >
> >>
> >> Noon-Air wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>
> >> > >> FWIW, I would highly recommend that your new system(regardless of
> > brand)
> >> > >> uses R-410a refrigerant.
> >> > >
> >> > > What advantages do you think that it has over 22a. Some sugggest
> >> > > availability and 410a is the newest on the block. Yes 22a will
> >> > > diminish in new units but like its predecessor, 22a will not
> >> > > dissapear
> >> > > for maintenance. What other reasons make you think 410a is the way
> >> > > to
> >> > > go?
> >> >
> >> > http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/phaseout/hcfc.html
> >> >
> >>
> >> Excellent Link. Thanks. ...and for letting me know what the Rheem has
> >> from the factory.
> >>
> >> Whats your point of view on the whole Puron scam thing? Lots of people
> >> have spoken about equipment failures with 410a but I don't buy it given
> >> the warranties that are being offered.
> >>
> >> S.
> >
> > Go with the proven R22 system. Why pay more for a 410 system when 22
will
> > be
> > around for a very long time? You can still buy 12 and there is already
> > dropin replacements for R22 on the market today. No matter what, it's
> > going
> > to depend greatly on the installer you chose to install your system. A
> > crappy install equals a crappy system that will offer you crappy
> > reliability
> > and crappy comfort.
>
> <sigh>
> Somebody else who hasn't done their homework, or gone to the training and
> classes for the new equipment. Apparently you don't actually sell R-410a
> equipment, A Rheem14 SEER R-410a heat pump system cost the customer LESS
> than the same system in a R-22 13 SEER. . OTOH, If your just a "gas and
go"
> kinda guy, you can do what you want, in just a couple of short years you
> won't have a choice.

I've done my homework

Price R22, now price R410 refrigerant.
IF a repair is needed to the refrigeration circuit, the R410 will be a more
costly to repair.
Ester oil absorbs moisture when there exists a leak or when the system is
opened for repair.
Ester oil likes to degrade rubber products, LOOK OUT roofing material.

Hummmmmmm........ I think I want that more costly unit, NOT!



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