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Does W/M Ultra boilers really need two loops? Mark Rockville 10-20-2006
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Posted by DIMwit on October 21, 2006, 8:33 am
Ouch, those caps are like staring into the sun, which I avoid normally.
Also, use some punctuation once in a while.
I am not qualified to know what the fuck you said, but I feel the pain.

Bob

> SOUNDS LIKE YOU DONT WANT TO PAY YOUR BILL ANYWAY YOU DID NOT INDICATE
> THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE SYSTEM
> ALSO A PLUMBER IS NOT QUALIFIED TO MAKE A CALL ON A HEATING SYSTEM
> DESIGN THAT IS WHY HE IS WORKING ON YOUR TOILET
> IT IS PROB MORE EFF THE WAY IT IS NOW WITH INDIVIDUAL LOOPS YOU ARE
> GETTING A LOWER TEMP RETURN WITCH EQUALS HIGHER EFF
> I DO COMMERCIAL WORK BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU GOOD LUCK
>
>> I'm a consumer that recently had a Weil McLain Ultra boiler installed in
>> my
>> ranch house with three radiant hot water zones. My hvac contracter chose
>> not
>> to install a primary and secondary water loop, as the installation manual
>> calls for. The supply and return water lines just go straight in and out
>> of
>> the boiler. (He told me there are alternative ways to plumb the Ultra
>> boiler). He wired the system so that each thermostat, when it calls for
>> heat, starts the appropriate pump and turns on the boiler.
>>
>> A plumber, in the house to repair a toilet, saw the Ultra boiler setup
>> and
>> told me that it was not installed correctly. In fact he said that the
>> warranty would be void without the primary and secondary hydronic loops.
>>
>> Who is right? I tried calling W/M but the operator would give me tech
>> support because I am not a contractor. But W/M's customer relations will
>> not
>> return my call. I am not sure that I trust my hvac man because he called
>> in
>> additional help three times during the installation, which took more than
>> one month.
>



Posted by shinesapp@hotmail.com on October 21, 2006, 8:52 am


> Ouch, those caps are like staring into the sun, which I avoid normally.
> Also, use some punctuation once in a while.
> I am not qualified to know what the fuck you said, but I feel the pain.
> wow you girls have a serious problem with looking at capital letters
I would hate to see you in the feild
any it is easier to read largger letters then smaller
I think you guys feel a loss of control when you see CAPITAL LETTERS
because bubba has brain washed you into feeling guilty for doing it i
like capital letters
I FEEL LIKE I CONTROL THE BLOG THAT WAY AND BUBBA FEELS CONTROL BY
BITCHING ABOUT IT AND GETTING
PEOPLE TO SUBMIT AND TURN OFF THE CAPS LOCK I WONT SUBMIT
> Bob
>
>
>
>
> > SOUNDS LIKE YOU DONT WANT TO PAY YOUR BILL ANYWAY YOU DID NOT INDICATE
> > THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE SYSTEM
> > ALSO A PLUMBER IS NOT QUALIFIED TO MAKE A CALL ON A HEATING SYSTEM
> > DESIGN THAT IS WHY HE IS WORKING ON YOUR TOILET
> > IT IS PROB MORE EFF THE WAY IT IS NOW WITH INDIVIDUAL LOOPS YOU ARE
> > GETTING A LOWER TEMP RETURN WITCH EQUALS HIGHER EFF
> > I DO COMMERCIAL WORK BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU GOOD LUCK
>
> >> I'm a consumer that recently had a Weil McLain Ultra boiler installed in
> >> my
> >> ranch house with three radiant hot water zones. My hvac contracter chose
> >> not
> >> to install a primary and secondary water loop, as the installation manual
> >> calls for. The supply and return water lines just go straight in and out
> >> of
> >> the boiler. (He told me there are alternative ways to plumb the Ultra
> >> boiler). He wired the system so that each thermostat, when it calls for
> >> heat, starts the appropriate pump and turns on the boiler.
>
> >> A plumber, in the house to repair a toilet, saw the Ultra boiler setup
> >> and
> >> told me that it was not installed correctly. In fact he said that the
> >> warranty would be void without the primary and secondary hydronic loops.
>
> >> Who is right? I tried calling W/M but the operator would give me tech
> >> support because I am not a contractor. But W/M's customer relations will
> >> not
> >> return my call. I am not sure that I trust my hvac man because he called
> >> in
> >> additional help three times during the installation, which took more than
> >> one month.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -


Posted by DIMwit on October 21, 2006, 11:15 am
Hey, if you have a problem with YOUR eyes, shiney, maybe YOU need the caps
to see what you are typing. If that's your reason, I won't make fun of that.
I can see real small type fonts on the screen, and I am a 63 year old fart.
People don't think top posting is smart, but Outlook express puts my replies
on top. Sometimes I move it to the bottom if following the message thread
makes more sense that way.

There are guys here that are disrespectful to everybody, guys that are
disrespectful to only those that deserve it, and some guys that show respect
most of the time. You may be very knowledgeable, I don't know, but anybody
that types in all caps looks like a guy in NYC standing on a box yelling at
everybody passing by. Most people will laugh and ignore that type of person.
You are (maybe just using new fake name here) FRESH MEAT here and look like
an idiot, whether it bothers you or not.

You are not catering to Bubba by using normal type, you are just being
courteous to everybody. Think about it, but the choice, is of course, only
yours. You control nothing here. You can just be put into anybody's "Block
this sender" list in an instant, and your messages will float around in
Cyberspace to be seen by nobody but you.

My last advice on this.

Bob
>
>
>> Ouch, those caps are like staring into the sun, which I avoid normally.
>> Also, use some punctuation once in a while.
>> I am not qualified to know what the fuck you said, but I feel the pain.
>> wow you girls have a serious problem with looking at capital letters
> I would hate to see you in the feild
> any it is easier to read largger letters then smaller
> I think you guys feel a loss of control when you see CAPITAL LETTERS
> because bubba has brain washed you into feeling guilty for doing it i
> like capital letters
> I FEEL LIKE I CONTROL THE BLOG THAT WAY AND BUBBA FEELS CONTROL BY
> BITCHING ABOUT IT AND GETTING
> PEOPLE TO SUBMIT AND TURN OFF THE CAPS LOCK I WONT SUBMIT
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > SOUNDS LIKE YOU DONT WANT TO PAY YOUR BILL ANYWAY YOU DID NOT INDICATE
>> > THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE SYSTEM
>> > ALSO A PLUMBER IS NOT QUALIFIED TO MAKE A CALL ON A HEATING SYSTEM
>> > DESIGN THAT IS WHY HE IS WORKING ON YOUR TOILET



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