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Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on May 4, 2007, 1:11 pm
Opinions, please on what type of duct cleaning equipment to buy. I've only
used (once) the type with the air powered "cat-o-nine-tails" on the end of a
hose. It worked, but left me feeling like it was going to beat the crap out
of the crispy old silverflex. Is there any gentler type that's still
effective?
LLoyd
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Posted by on May 4, 2007, 1:20 pm
On Fri, 4 May 2007 13:11:25 -0400, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
>Opinions, please on what type of duct cleaning equipment to buy. I've only
>used (once) the type with the air powered "cat-o-nine-tails" on the end of a
>hose. It worked, but left me feeling like it was going to beat the crap out
>of the crispy old silverflex. Is there any gentler type that's still
>effective?
>LLoyd
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Posted by Noon-Air on May 4, 2007, 2:11 pm
> Opinions, please on what type of duct cleaning equipment to buy. I've
> only used (once) the type with the air powered "cat-o-nine-tails" on the
> end of a hose. It worked, but left me feeling like it was going to beat
> the crap out of the crispy old silverflex. Is there any gentler type
> that's still effective?
When flex is dirty enough to need to be cleaned, it just flat time to
replace it. Its cheap enough, and a lot cheaper than a duct cleaning machine
that actually *works*.
May I suggest that when you replace the flex, use properly designed, sized
and installed tin with R-8(minimum) insulation. If its done correctly, the
tin ductwork will last as long as the house does. Might I also suggest that
yhou quit using those cheap assed 3-for-a-dollar K-Mart special fiberglass
filters.... they are worthless. Use a decent quality MERV 8 pleated,
disposable filter.
Again, its not what you wanted to hear because its not gonna be FREE, and
you might have to use a crowbar to pry open your wallet.
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Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on May 4, 2007, 3:51 pm
> When flex is dirty enough to need to be cleaned, it just flat time to
> replace it. Its cheap enough, and a lot cheaper than a duct cleaning
> machine that actually *works*.
Ok... but there's a booming market around here for duct cleaning. People
have freaked over mildew/mold/dust "pollution" in Florida. The two outfits
in our area that specialize in it are busy continuously. By the way.... do
you even _know_ what type of duct cleaning machine actually *works*?
I don't -- that's why I asked. The flying-ball rigs don't appear to be safe
to the ductwork.
> May I suggest that when you replace the flex, use properly designed, sized
> and installed tin with R-8(minimum) insulation. If its done correctly, the
> tin ductwork will last as long as the house does.
Yep. That will work in _some_ FL houses. Others, with the 2-in-12 roofs
with no crawl area... eh! Got some midgets we can hire? Some of the little
shed-roof homes around here would have us cutting out a raceway of access
holes in the ceiling of every room to re-string even flex. Hard pipe would
be damned near impossible -- even for YOU.
> Might I also suggest that yhou quit using those cheap assed 3-for-a-dollar
> K-Mart special fiberglass filters.... they are worthless. Use a decent
> quality MERV 8 pleated, disposable filter.
Gee! I thought my ducts stayed clean because of beginner's luck... now you
tell me it's the filter box I installed. _I_ don't use the cheap filters,
but don't tell our customers, because it's those 3-for-a-buck filters that
make more work.
(K-Mart closed around here-- they have to get them at Wally-World)
> Again, its not what you wanted to hear because its not gonna be FREE, and
> you might have to use a crowbar to pry open your wallet.
_I_ don't want it to be free. _I_ want to buy the equipment and charge for
the service.
But, then, Noon, you're doing it again. You're still making me out as the
homeowner on the cheap.
Let's see.... I want to fully equip a shop with HVAC repair and duct-buster
equipment AND do work for customers just so I can get my ducts cleaned for
free. Yeah, that sounds reasonable. Dolt.
LLoyd
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Posted by Noon-Air on May 4, 2007, 4:06 pm
>> When flex is dirty enough to need to be cleaned, it just flat time to
>> replace it. Its cheap enough, and a lot cheaper than a duct cleaning
>> machine that actually *works*.
> Ok... but there's a booming market around here for duct cleaning. People
> have freaked over mildew/mold/dust "pollution" in Florida. The two
> outfits in our area that specialize in it are busy continuously. By the
> way.... do you even _know_ what type of duct cleaning machine actually
> *works*?
> I don't -- that's why I asked. The flying-ball rigs don't appear to be
> safe to the ductwork.
>> May I suggest that when you replace the flex, use properly designed,
>> sized and installed tin with R-8(minimum) insulation. If its done
>> correctly, the tin ductwork will last as long as the house does.
> Yep. That will work in _some_ FL houses. Others, with the 2-in-12 roofs
> with no crawl area... eh! Got some midgets we can hire? Some of the
> little shed-roof homes around here would have us cutting out a raceway of
> access holes in the ceiling of every room to re-string even flex. Hard
> pipe would be damned near impossible -- even for YOU.
>> Might I also suggest that yhou quit using those cheap assed
>> 3-for-a-dollar K-Mart special fiberglass filters.... they are worthless.
>> Use a decent quality MERV 8 pleated, disposable filter.
> Gee! I thought my ducts stayed clean because of beginner's luck... now
> you tell me it's the filter box I installed. _I_ don't use the cheap
> filters, but don't tell our customers, because it's those 3-for-a-buck
> filters that make more work.
> (K-Mart closed around here-- they have to get them at Wally-World)
>> Again, its not what you wanted to hear because its not gonna be FREE, and
>> you might have to use a crowbar to pry open your wallet.
> _I_ don't want it to be free. _I_ want to buy the equipment and charge
> for the service.
> But, then, Noon, you're doing it again. You're still making me out as the
> homeowner on the cheap.
> Let's see.... I want to fully equip a shop with HVAC repair and
> duct-buster equipment AND do work for customers just so I can get my ducts
> cleaned for free. Yeah, that sounds reasonable. Dolt.
If your just going to play at it, and do it for a hobby, then your just
wasting your time and money.
If you are gonna do it right, then you might want to consider going here;
http://www.serviceroundtable.com/
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>used (once) the type with the air powered "cat-o-nine-tails" on the end of a
>hose. It worked, but left me feeling like it was going to beat the crap out
>of the crispy old silverflex. Is there any gentler type that's still
>effective?
>LLoyd