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Evap Coils not all sweating Ben 05-29-2007
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Posted by Noon-Air on June 2, 2007, 9:01 am

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>>
>> Maybe thats because you used the lowest bidder instead of looking for a
>> top quality installation of top quality equipment by a master technician.
>> Its hard to remember the sweetness of low price when the bitterness of
>> poor quality remains.
>
> So, how do we find a master technician? If I could find one that I could
> trust I would never ask for advice here again. Seriously, I am a lazy
> bastard and almost considered calling for installation of my programmable
> thermostat. I would have paid for it but I didn't know who to call.
> Fortunately, it all worked out okay when I did it.
>
> Around here (Phoenix) you just can't tell. I was in a fast food joint the
> other day and saw a guy eating with a shirt that said "Master Heat Pump
> Technician" on it. Shit, to me he looked like he just got out of Sheriff
> Joe's tent city jail. No way would I let him into my house.
>
> So, if you really want us homeowners to leave you alone, let us know how
> to find a good, knowledgeable, technician. I have no problem paying for
> that. What I do have a problem paying for is a bullshitter who knows less
> about the problem than I do; his solution is usually, "I'll just add a
> little gas."
>
> What do you guys think about calling the local power company for a
> referral? Both APS and SRP push their list of "Approved contractors" when
> they are encouraging pre-season checkups.

If you had a legitmate e-mail address, I would put you in touch with a
couple of really good techs in Phoenix area.



Posted by on May 30, 2007, 11:22 am


> I wouldn't need to take the word of a disreputable repair person,
> which I have seen plenty of

Here's your problem, try calling a reliable, competent, licensed, trained,
and reputable HVAC company.

Ask around to see who your friends, family, co-workers, and neighbors use
and if they're happy with the services they receive from them.



Posted by hvacrmedic on May 30, 2007, 11:40 am
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> > > I have two central ac units for my house in central NJ. The
> > > downstairs unit as always worked fine, but not the upstairs unit which
> > > is approx a 100,000 btu unit. I decided to start looking in to it and
> > > noticed that the evap coils are not all cold with the upstairs unit.
> > > Maybe 1/2 to 3/4's of them are cold and sweating. The suction line
> > > doesn't sweat on this unit, but always sweats on the downstairs unit
> > > back to the condensor. So, what are the possible reasons so that when
> > > I have somone take a look, I have a bit more understanding/knowledge.
> > > Thanks, Ben
>
> > Why do you need to understand it unless you're thinking you can fix it
> > yourself. Since you've had the cover off already, I'd say it's a safe
> > bet that you're just wanting a freebie. If you just have to know,
> > there are precisely two possible reasons for what you're seeing:
>
> > 1) Undersaturated coil.
> > 2) Nothing wrong at all.
>
> > There are a ton of specific reasons that #1 can occur, and keep in
> > mind that not all of those indicate a problem with the system itself.
>
> > Which of those possibilities do you think we should pick right out of
> > our ass for you?
>
> Wow....
> I never imagined what I thought would be a simple quesiton would
> invoke so much
> hostility. You asked:
> 'why do I need to understnd it unless you think you can fix it
> yourself. I'd say
> it's a safe bet that you're just wanting a freebie'
> I wanted to understand because I never thought this system worked
> correctly.
> It never cooled well. Was never able to keep up with cooling on hot
> days and taking a long time in the
> evening, after the sun went down, to bring the room to a comfortable
> temperature.
> So what if I did want what you call a 'freebie' ? Or, what if I just
> wanted to have a better understanding so that
> I wouldn't need to take the word of a disreputable repair person,
> which I have seen plenty of- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If you want to understand, then I suggest a local community college.
If you want it fixed, then I suggest you call a reputable service
company. If the guy is willing to give you a lesson in hvac while he's
there, then you're in luck on both counts. BTW, the previous post
wasn't hostile, it was sarcastic. If you don't understand why some of
use get cranked up every now and then, then its because you don't have
to deal every day with people who think that every problem with a unit
is written on some little list that we are given to memorize by our
bosses. Contrary to your opinion, one observation doesn't
automatically tell us what the problem is anymore than an MD can tell
you what's ailing you without performing a few tests. Patient calls
the doctor on the phone-- "Doc, I'm nauseated, can you help me
understand why that is without me coming in for a checkup"?









Posted by Ben on May 30, 2007, 1:17 pm
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> > > > I have two central ac units for my house in central NJ. The
> > > > downstairs unit as always worked fine, but not the upstairs unit which
> > > > is approx a 100,000 btu unit. I decided to start looking in to it and
> > > > noticed that the evap coils are not all cold with the upstairs unit.
> > > > Maybe 1/2 to 3/4's of them are cold and sweating. The suction line
> > > > doesn't sweat on this unit, but always sweats on the downstairs unit
> > > > back to the condensor. So, what are the possible reasons so that when
> > > > I have somone take a look, I have a bit more understanding/knowledge.
> > > > Thanks, Ben
>
> > > Why do you need to understand it unless you're thinking you can fix it
> > > yourself. Since you've had the cover off already, I'd say it's a safe
> > > bet that you're just wanting a freebie. If you just have to know,
> > > there are precisely two possible reasons for what you're seeing:
>
> > > 1) Undersaturated coil.
> > > 2) Nothing wrong at all.
>
> > > There are a ton of specific reasons that #1 can occur, and keep in
> > > mind that not all of those indicate a problem with the system itself.
>
> > > Which of those possibilities do you think we should pick right out of
> > > our ass for you?
>
> > Wow....
> > I never imagined what I thought would be a simple quesiton would
> > invoke so much
> > hostility. You asked:
> > 'why do I need to understnd it unless you think you can fix it
> > yourself. I'd say
> > it's a safe bet that you're just wanting a freebie'
> > I wanted to understand because I never thought this system worked
> > correctly.
> > It never cooled well. Was never able to keep up with cooling on hot
> > days and taking a long time in the
> > evening, after the sun went down, to bring the room to a comfortable
> > temperature.
> > So what if I did want what you call a 'freebie' ? Or, what if I just
> > wanted to have a better understanding so that
> > I wouldn't need to take the word of a disreputable repair person,
> > which I have seen plenty of- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If you want to understand, then I suggest a local community college.
> If you want it fixed, then I suggest you call a reputable service
> company. If the guy is willing to give you a lesson in hvac while he's
> there, then you're in luck on both counts. BTW, the previous post
> wasn't hostile, it was sarcastic. If you don't understand why some of
> use get cranked up every now and then, then its because you don't have
> to deal every day with people who think that every problem with a unit
> is written on some little list that we are given to memorize by our
> bosses. Contrary to your opinion, one observation doesn't
> automatically tell us what the problem is anymore than an MD can tell
> you what's ailing you without performing a few tests. Patient calls
> the doctor on the phone-- "Doc, I'm nauseated, can you help me
> understand why that is without me coming in for a checkup"?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I think I could understand the difference.
Mo Hoaner's response was Sarcastic. Fair enough....
If I didn't supply enough information, my fault.
Maybe a simple response like, you didn't supply enough info or what
really needs to be done is a Service
Tech, needs to hook up gauges to check the pressures to see if there
within spec. Or, cut and past a dozen
questions that you might ask all the time. So I guess what I see here
is that all the coils not being cold, might or might not indicate a
problem. Right now I'm leaning towards it being a problem and will
have someone come out and take a look. All I was trying to do is to
understand if my unit is working properly or if I should have someone
come in to take a look or would that in itself be a waste of a hundred
bucks.





Posted by hvacrmedic on May 30, 2007, 1:21 pm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > I have two central ac units for my house in central NJ. The
> > > > > downstairs unit as always worked fine, but not the upstairs unit which
> > > > > is approx a 100,000 btu unit. I decided to start looking in to it and
> > > > > noticed that the evap coils are not all cold with the upstairs unit.
> > > > > Maybe 1/2 to 3/4's of them are cold and sweating. The suction line
> > > > > doesn't sweat on this unit, but always sweats on the downstairs unit
> > > > > back to the condensor. So, what are the possible reasons so that when
> > > > > I have somone take a look, I have a bit more understanding/knowledge.
> > > > > Thanks, Ben
>
> > > > Why do you need to understand it unless you're thinking you can fix it
> > > > yourself. Since you've had the cover off already, I'd say it's a safe
> > > > bet that you're just wanting a freebie. If you just have to know,
> > > > there are precisely two possible reasons for what you're seeing:
>
> > > > 1) Undersaturated coil.
> > > > 2) Nothing wrong at all.
>
> > > > There are a ton of specific reasons that #1 can occur, and keep in
> > > > mind that not all of those indicate a problem with the system itself.
>
> > > > Which of those possibilities do you think we should pick right out of
> > > > our ass for you?
>
> > > Wow....
> > > I never imagined what I thought would be a simple quesiton would
> > > invoke so much
> > > hostility. You asked:
> > > 'why do I need to understnd it unless you think you can fix it
> > > yourself. I'd say
> > > it's a safe bet that you're just wanting a freebie'
> > > I wanted to understand because I never thought this system worked
> > > correctly.
> > > It never cooled well. Was never able to keep up with cooling on hot
> > > days and taking a long time in the
> > > evening, after the sun went down, to bring the room to a comfortable
> > > temperature.
> > > So what if I did want what you call a 'freebie' ? Or, what if I just
> > > wanted to have a better understanding so that
> > > I wouldn't need to take the word of a disreputable repair person,
> > > which I have seen plenty of- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > If you want to understand, then I suggest a local community college.
> > If you want it fixed, then I suggest you call a reputable service
> > company. If the guy is willing to give you a lesson in hvac while he's
> > there, then you're in luck on both counts. BTW, the previous post
> > wasn't hostile, it was sarcastic. If you don't understand why some of
> > use get cranked up every now and then, then its because you don't have
> > to deal every day with people who think that every problem with a unit
> > is written on some little list that we are given to memorize by our
> > bosses. Contrary to your opinion, one observation doesn't
> > automatically tell us what the problem is anymore than an MD can tell
> > you what's ailing you without performing a few tests. Patient calls
> > the doctor on the phone-- "Doc, I'm nauseated, can you help me
> > understand why that is without me coming in for a checkup"?- Hide quoted
text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I think I could understand the difference.
> Mo Hoaner's response was Sarcastic. Fair enough....
> If I didn't supply enough information, my fault.
> Maybe a simple response like, you didn't supply enough info or what
> really needs to be done is a Service
> Tech, needs to hook up gauges to check the pressures to see if there
> within spec. Or, cut and past a dozen
> questions that you might ask all the time. So I guess what I see here
> is that all the coils not being cold, might or might not indicate a
> problem. Right now I'm leaning towards it being a problem and will
> have someone come out and take a look. All I was trying to do is to
> understand if my unit is working properly or if I should have someone
> come in to take a look or would that in itself be a waste of a hundred
> bucks.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

In that case, yes you should have someone competent take a look at it.
If it isn't keep up with the load, then there's definitely a problem.
OTOH, there is nothing we can say that will help you understand,
because we don't know ourselves what the problem is. Fair enough?


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