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Finding TXV problems? Bubba 06-22-2008
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Posted by Bubba on June 22, 2008, 6:19 pm
Has anyone been seeing new TXV problems?
Ive recently installed a Tempstar 5 ton 14 SEER condenser with an
Aspen TXV coil. (Sorry, the Tempstar matching coil had NO WAY fo
fitting in that space.) Ran fine about a month. Customer called
saying it wasnt cooling and was making a ton of noise outside. I get
there turned it on and watched it run perfectly and flawlessly for
about 1/2 hr. Subcooling was perfect. Went to the truck to do some
paperwork and customer came out and told me the noise started again.
Sure enough the Internal relief valve opened up in the compressor.
Shut the unit off and back on and it ran for almost 2 weeks fine
again. Same problem yesterday. Gotta change out the TXV this week
which is evidentially closing intermittently.
Had a Trane dealer close to me tell me the same exact scenario about a
week ago of a new Trane system he installed.
Anyone else found this lately?
Bubba

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Posted by Zyp on June 22, 2008, 6:49 pm
Bubba wrote:
> Has anyone been seeing new TXV problems?
> Ive recently installed a Tempstar 5 ton 14 SEER condenser with an
> Aspen TXV coil. (Sorry, the Tempstar matching coil had NO WAY fo
> fitting in that space.) Ran fine about a month. Customer called
> saying it wasnt cooling and was making a ton of noise outside. I get
> there turned it on and watched it run perfectly and flawlessly for
> about 1/2 hr. Subcooling was perfect. Went to the truck to do some
> paperwork and customer came out and told me the noise started again.
> Sure enough the Internal relief valve opened up in the compressor.
> Shut the unit off and back on and it ran for almost 2 weeks fine
> again. Same problem yesterday. Gotta change out the TXV this week
> which is evidentially closing intermittently.
> Had a Trane dealer close to me tell me the same exact scenario about a
> week ago of a new Trane system he installed.
> Anyone else found this lately?
> Bubba

Check the mesh screen in the liquid line connection at the valve. Also,
install a new liquid filter drier in the liquid line before the valve. If
the valves thermal diaphram is failing, it may be a "bad" liquid charge on
the thermal bulb. A failing thermal bulb will close the valve.

--
Zyp



Posted by Bubba on June 22, 2008, 8:19 pm

>Bubba wrote:
>> Has anyone been seeing new TXV problems?
>> Ive recently installed a Tempstar 5 ton 14 SEER condenser with an
>> Aspen TXV coil. (Sorry, the Tempstar matching coil had NO WAY fo
>> fitting in that space.) Ran fine about a month. Customer called
>> saying it wasnt cooling and was making a ton of noise outside. I get
>> there turned it on and watched it run perfectly and flawlessly for
>> about 1/2 hr. Subcooling was perfect. Went to the truck to do some
>> paperwork and customer came out and told me the noise started again.
>> Sure enough the Internal relief valve opened up in the compressor.
>> Shut the unit off and back on and it ran for almost 2 weeks fine
>> again. Same problem yesterday. Gotta change out the TXV this week
>> which is evidentially closing intermittently.
>> Had a Trane dealer close to me tell me the same exact scenario about a
>> week ago of a new Trane system he installed.
>> Anyone else found this lately?
>> Bubba
>
>Check the mesh screen in the liquid line connection at the valve. Also,
>install a new liquid filter drier in the liquid line before the valve. If
>the valves thermal diaphram is failing, it may be a "bad" liquid charge on
>the thermal bulb. A failing thermal bulb will close the valve.

Thanks for the info Zyp but these are the factory installed cheap
expansion valves. You know, the ones those Tiwanese or Koreans or
whoever is shipping this cheap junk. No serviceable screens, parts or
adjustments. The bulb charge is not bad as that would shut the valve
and keep it shut. This is a very intermittent problem. It has occured
twice in about a 2 to 3 week period.
Im thinking there may be a lot of this showing up shortly.
As always, I always install a new drier at the indoor coil.
Hoping I find others that are running into this problem.
I just dont want to change the valve with another valve that has the
same problem.
Bubba

Posted by Steve on June 22, 2008, 8:39 pm

>
>>Bubba wrote:
>>> Has anyone been seeing new TXV problems?
>>> Ive recently installed a Tempstar 5 ton 14 SEER condenser with an
>>> Aspen TXV coil. (Sorry, the Tempstar matching coil had NO WAY fo
>>> fitting in that space.) Ran fine about a month. Customer called
>>> saying it wasnt cooling and was making a ton of noise outside. I get
>>> there turned it on and watched it run perfectly and flawlessly for
>>> about 1/2 hr. Subcooling was perfect. Went to the truck to do some
>>> paperwork and customer came out and told me the noise started again.
>>> Sure enough the Internal relief valve opened up in the compressor.
>>> Shut the unit off and back on and it ran for almost 2 weeks fine
>>> again. Same problem yesterday. Gotta change out the TXV this week
>>> which is evidentially closing intermittently.
>>> Had a Trane dealer close to me tell me the same exact scenario about a
>>> week ago of a new Trane system he installed.
>>> Anyone else found this lately?
>>> Bubba
>>
>>Check the mesh screen in the liquid line connection at the valve. Also,
>>install a new liquid filter drier in the liquid line before the valve. If
>>the valves thermal diaphram is failing, it may be a "bad" liquid charge on
>>the thermal bulb. A failing thermal bulb will close the valve.
>
> Thanks for the info Zyp but these are the factory installed cheap
> expansion valves. You know, the ones those Tiwanese or Koreans or
> whoever is shipping this cheap junk. No serviceable screens, parts or
> adjustments. The bulb charge is not bad as that would shut the valve
> and keep it shut. This is a very intermittent problem. It has occured
> twice in about a 2 to 3 week period.
> Im thinking there may be a lot of this showing up shortly.
> As always, I always install a new drier at the indoor coil.
> Hoping I find others that are running into this problem.
> I just dont want to change the valve with another valve that has the
> same problem.
> Bubba

Is it possible that the bulb is not attached correctly or if its R-22, I
would also be wondering if there is some moisture in the system, or non
condensibles that make it *seem* like the valve is closing.



Posted by Bubba on June 22, 2008, 9:04 pm
wrote:

>
>>
>>>Bubba wrote:
>>>> Has anyone been seeing new TXV problems?
>>>> Ive recently installed a Tempstar 5 ton 14 SEER condenser with an
>>>> Aspen TXV coil. (Sorry, the Tempstar matching coil had NO WAY fo
>>>> fitting in that space.) Ran fine about a month. Customer called
>>>> saying it wasnt cooling and was making a ton of noise outside. I get
>>>> there turned it on and watched it run perfectly and flawlessly for
>>>> about 1/2 hr. Subcooling was perfect. Went to the truck to do some
>>>> paperwork and customer came out and told me the noise started again.
>>>> Sure enough the Internal relief valve opened up in the compressor.
>>>> Shut the unit off and back on and it ran for almost 2 weeks fine
>>>> again. Same problem yesterday. Gotta change out the TXV this week
>>>> which is evidentially closing intermittently.
>>>> Had a Trane dealer close to me tell me the same exact scenario about a
>>>> week ago of a new Trane system he installed.
>>>> Anyone else found this lately?
>>>> Bubba
>>>
>>>Check the mesh screen in the liquid line connection at the valve. Also,
>>>install a new liquid filter drier in the liquid line before the valve. If
>>>the valves thermal diaphram is failing, it may be a "bad" liquid charge on
>>>the thermal bulb. A failing thermal bulb will close the valve.
>>
>> Thanks for the info Zyp but these are the factory installed cheap
>> expansion valves. You know, the ones those Tiwanese or Koreans or
>> whoever is shipping this cheap junk. No serviceable screens, parts or
>> adjustments. The bulb charge is not bad as that would shut the valve
>> and keep it shut. This is a very intermittent problem. It has occured
>> twice in about a 2 to 3 week period.
>> Im thinking there may be a lot of this showing up shortly.
>> As always, I always install a new drier at the indoor coil.
>> Hoping I find others that are running into this problem.
>> I just dont want to change the valve with another valve that has the
>> same problem.
>> Bubba
>
>Is it possible that the bulb is not attached correctly or if its R-22, I
>would also be wondering if there is some moisture in the system, or non
>condensibles that make it *seem* like the valve is closing.
>
Sorry about that. This is Strictly R-410a systems. NO R-22. Bulb is in
the 10 oclock position on a horizontal run and insulated. No moisture
unless the new drier and 400 microns I pulled on it and held with my
JB Vac pump and digital guage lied to me. :-)
Bubba

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