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Furnace Help Please True 03-13-2008
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Posted by Mike H on March 14, 2008, 9:40 am
On Mar 13, 7:15 pm, True wrote:
> I have a 5 year old amana furnace that will not light. I replaced the
> thermostat and that did not work. I think my pilot light is out but I
> cannot find where it is in the unit. I do see a little red light
> flashing 4 times. Can you help?

The Charter for this news group does not include assisting home owners
with their individual issues. Many of the people in this news group
make their living by servicing home owner units, thus their attitude
is that you should call a service tech if you want your furnace
fixed. For this newsgroup, that is an appropriate attitude.

If you want a chance at some real help, and not folks egging you on,
try alt.home.repair.


Posted by Tony Sivori on March 15, 2008, 1:25 pm
Mike H wrote:

> On Mar 13, 7:15 pm, True wrote:
>> I have a 5 year old amana furnace that will not light. I replaced the
>> thermostat and that did not work. I think my pilot light is out but I
>> cannot find where it is in the unit. I do see a little red light
>> flashing 4 times. Can you help?
>
> The Charter for this news group does not include assisting home owners
> with their individual issues.

Not true. Here is the charter for alt.hvac:

[begin quote from earliest control message in the archive]

alt.hvac        Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning discussion

This group will discuss planning, design, implementation and other things
related to commercial HVAC systems.

[end quote from earliest control message in the archive]

Nowhere is the charter does it say this group is for professionals only. A
request for help from a homeowner would qualify as "other things related
to commercial HVAC systems". Not to mention the "discussion" (what a
useless phrase for a text newsgorup) in the tag line.

> Many of the people in this news group make their living by servicing
> home owner units, thus their attitude is that you should call a service
> tech if you want your furnace fixed.

> For this newsgroup, that is an appropriate attitude.

They may take that attitude if they like, but the Charter does not back
them up.

> If you want a chance at some real help, and not folks egging you on, try
> alt.home.repair.

Good advice. Google can also be helpful.

--
Tony Sivori


Posted by kool on March 15, 2008, 2:27 pm

> Mike H wrote:
>
>> On Mar 13, 7:15 pm, True wrote:
>>> I have a 5 year old amana furnace that will not light. I replaced the
>>> thermostat and that did not work. I think my pilot light is out but I
>>> cannot find where it is in the unit. I do see a little red light
>>> flashing 4 times. Can you help?
>>
>> The Charter for this news group does not include assisting home owners
>> with their individual issues.
>
> Not true. Here is the charter for alt.hvac:
>
> [begin quote from earliest control message in the archive]
>
> alt.hvac Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning discussion
>
> This group will discuss planning, design, implementation and other things
> related to commercial HVAC systems.
>
> [end quote from earliest control message in the archive]
>
> Nowhere is the charter does it say this group is for professionals only. A
> request for help from a homeowner would qualify as "other things related
> to commercial HVAC systems". Not to mention the "discussion" (what a
> useless phrase for a text newsgorup) in the tag line.
>
>> Many of the people in this news group make their living by servicing
>> home owner units, thus their attitude is that you should call a service
>> tech if you want your furnace fixed.
>
>> For this newsgroup, that is an appropriate attitude.
>
> They may take that attitude if they like, but the Charter does not back
> them up.
>
>> If you want a chance at some real help, and not folks egging you on, try
>> alt.home.repair.
>
> Good advice. Google can also be helpful.
>
> --
> Tony Sivori

Not too many homes have commercial HVAC systems in them. The few that do
are owned by people that have enough money and brains to call a pro for help
and get it done right, not DIY for free with internet advice! Vrey few
homeowners are interested or qualified to discuss things related to
commercial HVAC systems. Residential HVAC equipment is referred to as
"residential", in the trade. Residential, Commercial, Industrial, and
Institutional are the main designations for HVAC equipment. Now you know,
Tony.



Posted by Tony Sivori on March 15, 2008, 5:29 pm
kool wrote:
>
> Not too many homes have commercial HVAC systems in them. The few that do
> are owned by people that have enough money and brains to call a pro for
> help and get it done right, not DIY for free with internet advice! Vrey
> few homeowners are interested or qualified to discuss things related to
> commercial HVAC systems. Residential HVAC equipment is referred to as
> "residential", in the trade. Residential, Commercial, Industrial, and
> Institutional are the main designations for HVAC equipment. Now you
> know, Tony.

Sometimes a word is defined by context. For example, "may" might mean
"possibly", or "may" can also mean "permitted".

In the context of the Charter, I'd say that "commercial" means HVAC
systems that are sold commercially.

The alternative, is that if you are right, all of the techs here
discussing residential HVAC systems are having off topic discussion.

--
Tony Sivori


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