Gasohol

Posted by Don Ocean on November 15, 2008, 10:36 pm

Stormy:

It is a lousy fuel. It takes more energy to produce then it will expend.
It costs the taxpayer 55 cents a mixed gallon and it still can't
compete. The farmers love it. They pay $10,000 per share for the company
and usually buy several shares. This ownership gives them a guarantee of
a locked in high price for their corn and other alcohol producing crops.
This in turn has caused the companies to declare bankruptcies in a down
market that we are now in. The largest 2 producers along with about 9
smaller producers are here in South Dakota. The farmers are having
another Bumper crop year, but require higher prices as the fuel costs
and petroleum based fertilizers, insect sprays, etc have taken a helluva
a toll. A friend of mine borrowed over $800,000 in a production loan
this year. That is getting real common. many have borrowed several
$million to install windfarms. One super windmill costs about $1.8
million and is projected to recover its investment plus profit in 7
years. I believe Hell will freeze over first.

Posted by Noon-Air on November 16, 2008, 11:48 am

> Stormy:
> It is a lousy fuel. It takes more energy to produce then it will expend.
> It costs the taxpayer 55 cents a mixed gallon and it still can't
> compete. The farmers love it. They pay $10,000 per share for the company
> and usually buy several shares. This ownership gives them a guarantee of
> a locked in high price for their corn and other alcohol producing crops.
> This in turn has caused the companies to declare bankruptcies in a down
> market that we are now in. The largest 2 producers along with about 9
> smaller producers are here in South Dakota. The farmers are having another
> Bumper crop year, but require higher prices as the fuel costs and
> petroleum based fertilizers, insect sprays, etc have taken a helluva a
> toll. A friend of mine borrowed over $800,000 in a production loan this
> year. That is getting real common. many have borrowed several $million to
> install windfarms. One super windmill costs about $1.8 million and is
> projected to recover its investment plus profit in 7 years. I believe Hell
> will freeze over first.

Don, I have to disagree on the gasohol... as far as being a lousy fuel... My
own experiences have proven to me that ita a lot better than just straight
gasoline. Not only in better performance, and better fuel economy, but its
that much less dependence on fossil fuels and its more environmentally
friendly.

Posted by Stormin Mormon on November 16, 2008, 3:53 pm

I presume you kept track of fuel usage, miles, mileage, and so on? I was
astounded when I calculated it out, and found the drop in mileage. And
that's just with 10% ethanol.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

Don, I have to disagree on the gasohol... as far as being a lousy fuel... My
own experiences have proven to me that ita a lot better than just straight
gasoline. Not only in better performance, and better fuel economy, but its
that much less dependence on fossil fuels and its more environmentally
friendly.

Posted by Steve on November 16, 2008, 4:13 pm

>I presume you kept track of fuel usage, miles, mileage, and so on?

As a matter of fact, I did, and the 275 engine horsepower was from the dyno
with all of the factory smog equipment removed. The emissions were
negligable... they barely registered on the machine.

The stock engine only put out 105hp, only got 18 - 20mpg(maybe) on the
interstate, and barely passed the emissions test.

> I was
> astounded when I calculated it out, and found the drop in mileage. And
> that's just with 10% ethanol.
> --
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
> .
> Don, I have to disagree on the gasohol... as far as being a lousy fuel...
> My
> own experiences have proven to me that ita a lot better than just straight
> gasoline. Not only in better performance, and better fuel economy, but its
> that much less dependence on fossil fuels and its more environmentally
> friendly.
>

Posted by Don Ocean on November 16, 2008, 10:23 pm

Steve wrote:

>> I presume you kept track of fuel usage, miles, mileage, and so on?

>
> As a matter of fact, I did, and the 275 engine horsepower was from the dyno
> with all of the factory smog equipment removed. The emissions were
> negligable... they barely registered on the machine.
>
> The stock engine only put out 105hp, only got 18 - 20mpg(maybe) on the
> interstate, and barely passed the emissions test.

What are you smoking? From 105 HP to 275 HP.. The only way that corn can
do that is if the driver drinks that alcohol product derived from it.

>> I was
>> astounded when I calculated it out, and found the drop in mileage. And
>> that's just with 10% ethanol.
>> --
>> Christopher A. Young
>> Learn more about Jesus
>> www.lds.org
>> .
>> Don, I have to disagree on the gasohol... as far as being a lousy fuel...
>> My
>> own experiences have proven to me that ita a lot better than just straight
>> gasoline. Not only in better performance, and better fuel economy, but its
>> that much less dependence on fossil fuels and its more environmentally
>> friendly.

>
>

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