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Posted by on July 8, 2007, 11:25 pm
What grade should Paul give to his student?
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Teacher's Reply
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>On Jul 2, 4:54 pm, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:35:11 -0700, w...@netzero.net wrote:
>>
>>
>> >That is false. The unit shuts down while running and when I check the
>> >temperature limit is open. This only opens on a high temp (280 to be
>> >exact). I suspect this is opening early, but not proven yet. I need
>> >hotter weather!
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>> Remove sensor from unit
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>> Carry into kitchen.
>>
>> Hook meter up to sensor, in Ohms mode
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>> Place sensor in pot of water.
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>> Bring to a boil.
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>> See where sensor opens.
>>
>> Explain to wife that seeing as you used her meat thermometer
>> on the AC unit, you thought it was only fair to bring some of the AC
>> unit into her kitchen in return.
>
>OK, I finally caught the thing shutting down. Temperature on the
>discharge pipe was 207 degrees. Temperature on the top of the
>compressor where the sensor goes in was 211 degrees. I suspect that
>the temperature limit is probably opening early. Because of clearance
>problems I can not get the temperature probe down into where the
>sensor sits. So since the sensor is suppose to open at 280 degrees, is
>the chance good that it is opening early? Exactly how hot is normal
>for the discharge from the compressor (I saw someone said 200 - 230
>was not abnormal, but not sure if that was credible). Will the
>temperature go up as the compressor runs? When I checked a couple
>times when it was running, it was in the 180 degree range. Is there
>something else that could cause it to jump up, or should I just face
>the facts and replace the $100 sensor? It took it an hour of running
>in 95 degree weather to reach the shutoff point.
>
>Thanks again for the help.
Let's see - it's supposed to open at 280 ( a range that
indicates a problem ), you find it opening at 180 - 211, numbers that
are normal operation.
Hmmmm......
To change, or not to change ?
To change, or not to change ?
'Tis the question.
You actually need help with that one ? And you ask on a
Sunday, when overtime rates are in effect ?
Well, I know this guy who will answer it for you, right after
you drop 50 bucks in his paypal account for saving you $ 1,000.
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Student's Reply
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Remember, I am not the HVAC expert here. As I said I see it running
around 190 degrees today at discharge. When it opens it appears the
temperature has gone up somewhat (to lets say 207 on the discharge).
Now I'll admit that by the time I get there, residual heat may have
raised the temperature a little. I would not expect to find a 70
degree difference from the well the sensor is in, but who the heck
knows. I am not a compressor expert. So what is the upper end of
normal temperature on a compressor discharge? I know, I know since
they set the limit at 280 degrees, anything up to that is
normal... :-). Really, what is the normal operating range. Is 200 -
240 as someone stated before normal?
Straight answer?
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Teacher's Reply
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>Remember, I am not the HVAC expert here.
Oh, I think we understand that.
> As I said I see it running
>around 190 degrees today at discharge. When it opens it appears the
>temperature has gone up somewhat (to lets say 207 on the discharge).
>Now I'll admit that by the time I get there, residual heat may have
>raised the temperature a little. I would not expect to find a 70
>degree difference from the well the sensor is in, but who the heck
>knows. I am not a compressor expert. So what is the upper end of
>normal temperature on a compressor discharge? I know, I know since
>they set the limit at 280 degrees, anything up to that is
>normal... :-). Really, what is the normal operating range. Is 200 -
>240 as someone stated before normal?
>
>Straight answer?
The first 100 questions are free. You are on questoin # 101.
50 bucks.
If you're not bright enough to figure out the answer by this
time, you're not bright enough to be fucking with the unit, go pay the
other guy $ 1,100.
What do you want me to do, draw you a picture ?
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Student's Reply
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So thanks for your time and be quiet. Maybe someone else will answer
the temperature question, maybe not. Since you are not, you might as
well not give any answers.
By the way, you want to go back and read your posting where you told
me to post the temperatures once I get them? Can't remember that, eh?
Must of been a bad weekend.
Am I bright enough to figure this out. Yes I am, but I am a little
suspicious of the temperature jumping 20 or 30 degrees after what it
had been running at for an hour up to that. Just seemed weird to me,
but maybe there is normal variations I did not catch (that is an
answer I do not know).
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Teacher's Reply
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>>
>> The first 100 questions are free. You are on questoin # 101.
>> 50 bucks.
>>
>> If you're not bright enough to figure out the answer by this
>> time, you're not bright enough to be fucking with the unit, go pay the
>> other guy $ 1,100.
>>
>So thanks for your time and be quiet.
Be quiet ? You complete and utter fucking ungrateful asshole.
Take that sensor and shove it up your ass sideways, moron.
> Maybe someone else will answer
>the temperature question, maybe not. Since you are not, you might as
>well not give any answers.
You might as well suck my dick, you sorry little piece of
stupid shit.
>
>By the way, you want to go back and read your posting where you told
>me to post the temperatures once I get them? Can't remember that, eh?
>Must of been a bad weekend.
>
>Am I bright enough to figure this out. Yes I am, but I am a little
No, you're not. You're a fucking asshole
>suspicious of the temperature jumping 20 or 30 degrees after what it
>had been running at for an hour up to that. Just seemed weird to me,
>but maybe there is normal variations I did not catch (that is an
>answer I do not know).
plonk
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Teacher's Additional Reply
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PS - And people wonder why I don't want ho-moaners posting
their BS DIY crap here.
Let no good deed go unpunished.
Hey, sensor-boi - shove your thermometer up your ass along
side that sensor and let us know how well it's calibtrated.
Then lick it off.
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What's your opinion, pass or fail?
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