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HVAC Sizing walter_lee 07-11-2006
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Posted by on July 11, 2006, 7:27 am
When getting a new HVAC installed, how do you know you are getting the
correct size for your home?


Posted by HeatMan on July 11, 2006, 7:57 am

> When getting a new HVAC installed, how do you know you are getting the
> correct size for your home?
>

Run a heat load on the house. There isn't a 'rule of thumb' that works.

There are a bunch of programs available on the internet.



Posted by on July 11, 2006, 9:58 am

>
>> When getting a new HVAC installed, how do you know you are getting the
>> correct size for your home?
>>
>
>Run a heat load on the house. There isn't a 'rule of thumb' that works.
>
>There are a bunch of programs available on the internet.
>

Indeed. lets look at how long its taken bill gates to write a program
that isnt full of bugs and doesnt crash.

Ok now suppose we have a rock solid, building-code-approved load
calculation program. 10 different people, inputting data
independently, will arrive at 10 different 'answers'. Which one is
most correct???

OK now we have the exact btu gain/loss numbers, and now we must
select pieces of equipment that most closely matches the heat
gain/loss numbers, and still stay within the customers budget.....

Guess what?? NOBODY makes a 29,000 btu gas furnace with a 57,295
btu, 5 ton blower, which is exactly what the load calc says is
needed..........so now what? Oversize the heating to obtain the
desired cooling airflow??

A tiny fact that most consumers are never made aware of is that a
heating or cooling load calc is accurate at only one point in time,
and that is when indoor and outdoor ambient temps are at DESIGN
conditions. Any other time its either oversized or undersized.

Posted by Noon-Air on July 11, 2006, 10:05 am

>
>>
>>> When getting a new HVAC installed, how do you know you are getting the
>>> correct size for your home?
>>>
>>
>>Run a heat load on the house. There isn't a 'rule of thumb' that works.
>>
>>There are a bunch of programs available on the internet.
>>
>
> Indeed. lets look at how long its taken bill gates to write a program
> that isnt full of bugs and doesnt crash.
>
> Ok now suppose we have a rock solid, building-code-approved load
> calculation program. 10 different people, inputting data
> independently, will arrive at 10 different 'answers'. Which one is
> most correct???

Take the highest, and lowest and trash them... the rest should be pretty
close.... go with the averages.

> OK now we have the exact btu gain/loss numbers, and now we must
> select pieces of equipment that most closely matches the heat
> gain/loss numbers, and still stay within the customers budget.....

For the most part this is true.... there are also a lot of financing options
avalable.

> Guess what?? NOBODY makes a 29,000 btu gas furnace with a 57,295
> btu, 5 ton blower, which is exactly what the load calc says is
> needed..........so now what? Oversize the heating to obtain the
> desired cooling airflow??

This is going to to be dependant on the region, and the design perameters.

> A tiny fact that most consumers are never made aware of is that a
> heating or cooling load calc is accurate at only one point in time,
> and that is when indoor and outdoor ambient temps are at DESIGN
> conditions. Any other time its either oversized or undersized.

There are multi-stage furnaces, and air conditioners available.



Posted by on July 11, 2006, 6:56 pm

Noon-Air wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> When getting a new HVAC installed, how do you know you are getting the
> >>> correct size for your home?
> >>>
> >>
> >>Run a heat load on the house. There isn't a 'rule of thumb' that works.
> >>
> >>There are a bunch of programs available on the internet.
> >>
> >
> > Indeed. lets look at how long its taken bill gates to write a program
> > that isnt full of bugs and doesnt crash.
> >
> > Ok now suppose we have a rock solid, building-code-approved load
> > calculation program. 10 different people, inputting data
> > independently, will arrive at 10 different 'answers'. Which one is
> > most correct???
>
> Take the highest, and lowest and trash them... the rest should be pretty
> close.... go with the averages.
>
> > OK now we have the exact btu gain/loss numbers, and now we must
> > select pieces of equipment that most closely matches the heat
> > gain/loss numbers, and still stay within the customers budget.....
>
> For the most part this is true.... there are also a lot of financing options
> avalable.
>
> > Guess what?? NOBODY makes a 29,000 btu gas furnace with a 57,295
> > btu, 5 ton blower, which is exactly what the load calc says is
> > needed..........so now what? Oversize the heating to obtain the
> > desired cooling airflow??
>
> This is going to to be dependant on the region, and the design perameters.
>
> > A tiny fact that most consumers are never made aware of is that a
> > heating or cooling load calc is accurate at only one point in time,
> > and that is when indoor and outdoor ambient temps are at DESIGN
> > conditions. Any other time its either oversized or undersized.
>
> There are multi-stage furnaces, and air conditioners available.

How does HVAC size effect its energy efficiency?
The region is Washington DC


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