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HVAC condenser replacement Freud 09-01-2008
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Posted by Freud on September 1, 2008, 7:13 pm


I lost my HVAC compressor because my heat pump system lost its Freon
R22 two times (Tube breakage in the condenser unit). Oil may be lost
with the Freon, except when there is very small seeping leaks where
only gas leaks out. After fixing the leaks, my certified HVAC
technician did not add any make-up oil when he evacuated and recharged
my system.
Air conditioners and heat pumps compressors must have oil to lubricate
them. I do not find any place on the web where some replacement fresh
Freon R-22 contains lubricating oil: or oil injection tools for adding
oil.

Carrier is deceiving on using the R-410 Freon, one place it states
that units are up to 19 Seer/9 HSPF and than they states the units
are 14.0SEER/8.2 HSPF or higher. Which one is it? Carrier developed
the R-410 Freon and sold EPA on requiring it.
(http://www.residential.carrier.com/products/acheatpumps/heatpumps/
infinity.shtml ----http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/heating-air-
conditioning/410-puron-vs-r-22-refrigerant-31482.html)

Carrier does not have replacement units for their older systems.
Also, Carrier does not maintain detail information on the older
systems. They like you to buy new systems whenever something fails. I
do not believe that replacements must be the same brand. They say
this so that you buy their brand.

Are there any 5-ton heat pump replacement condenser units available
for a home HVAC system? I need a 5-ton condenser unit that have a 2
stage compressor, and use R22 Freon.

Posted by Noon-Air on September 1, 2008, 7:36 pm



>I lost my HVAC compressor because my heat pump system lost its Freon
> R22 two times (Tube breakage in the condenser unit). Oil may be lost
> with the Freon, except when there is very small seeping leaks where
> only gas leaks out. After fixing the leaks, my certified HVAC
> technician did not add any make-up oil when he evacuated and recharged
> my system.
> Air conditioners and heat pumps compressors must have oil to lubricate
> them. I do not find any place on the web where some replacement fresh
> Freon R-22 contains lubricating oil: or oil injection tools for adding
> oil.

You won't find any either

> Carrier is deceiving on using the R-410 Freon, one place it states
> that units are up to 19 Seer/9 HSPF and than they states the units
> are 14.0SEER/8.2 HSPF or higher. Which one is it? Carrier developed
> the R-410 Freon and sold EPA on requiring it.
> (http://www.residential.carrier.com/products/acheatpumps/heatpumps/
> infinity.shtml ----http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/heating-air-
> conditioning/410-puron-vs-r-22-refrigerant-31482.html)

R-22 is being phased out.... don't waste any more money on it. Go to an
R-410a system. there are a lot better brands out there than Carrier.
http://www.epa.gov/Ozone/title6/phaseout/hcfc.html

> Carrier does not have replacement units for their older systems.
> Also, Carrier does not maintain detail information on the older
> systems. They like you to buy new systems whenever something fails. I
> do not believe that replacements must be the same brand. They say
> this so that you buy their brand.

There are a lot better brands out there than Carrier....
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/appliances/heating-cooling-and-air/gas-furnaces/furnaces-repair-history-205/overview/
FWIW, Its not manditory that you keep the same brand inside and outside,
but.... *READ* the warranty paperwork before you decide to mix and match.

> Are there any 5-ton heat pump replacement condenser units available
> for a home HVAC system?

yes...but refer to the above comments and links.

>I need a 5-ton condenser unit that have a 2
> stage compressor, and use R22 Freon.

Everybody has needs


Posted by Stormin Mormon on September 1, 2008, 9:54 pm


I do own a tool for adding lubricating oil to systems.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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> Air conditioners and heat pumps compressors must have oil to lubricate
> them. I do not find any place on the web where some replacement fresh
> Freon R-22 contains lubricating oil: or oil injection tools for adding
> oil.

You won't find any either




Posted by Stormin Mormon on September 1, 2008, 9:55 pm


He needs to marry his mother?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.



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>I need a 5-ton condenser unit that have a 2
> stage compressor, and use R22 Freon.

Everybody has needs



Posted by KJPRO on September 1, 2008, 9:22 pm



>I lost my HVAC compressor because my heat pump system lost its Freon
> R22 two times (Tube breakage in the condenser unit). Oil may be lost
> with the Freon, except when there is very small seeping leaks where
> only gas leaks out. After fixing the leaks, my certified HVAC
> technician did not add any make-up oil when he evacuated and recharged
> my system.
> Air conditioners and heat pumps compressors must have oil to lubricate
> them. I do not find any place on the web where some replacement fresh
> Freon R-22 contains lubricating oil: or oil injection tools for adding
> oil.
> Carrier is deceiving on using the R-410 Freon, one place it states
> that units are up to 19 Seer/9 HSPF and than they states the units
> are 14.0SEER/8.2 HSPF or higher. Which one is it? Carrier developed
> the R-410 Freon and sold EPA on requiring it.
> (http://www.residential.carrier.com/products/acheatpumps/heatpumps/
> infinity.shtml ----http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/heating-air-
> conditioning/410-puron-vs-r-22-refrigerant-31482.html)
> Carrier does not have replacement units for their older systems.
> Also, Carrier does not maintain detail information on the older
> systems. They like you to buy new systems whenever something fails. I
> do not believe that replacements must be the same brand. They say
> this so that you buy their brand.
> Are there any 5-ton heat pump replacement condenser units available
> for a home HVAC system? I need a 5-ton condenser unit that have a 2
> stage compressor, and use R22 Freon.


Just another *uninformed* poster, posting inaccurate information!



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