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HVAC not working! Andrew 07-12-2007
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Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski on July 13, 2007, 12:55 am

>
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Jul 12, 10:02 pm, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> wrote:
> > > > > >> Recently my HVAC in my condo stopped working. The fan will not
> come
> > > > > >> on. Even when I click the tstat to have the fan "on" instead
of
> > > > > >> "auto".
> > >
> > > > > >> There is a switch for the blower/fan that is next to the intake
> vent
> > > > > >> (and where the fan actually is) that I turn off to service the
> > > filter,
> > > > > >> and if I turn this switch to off, then to on, the fan will
whirr
> up
> > > > > >> and stay on for about 10 seconds. During this time, the air
does
> > > feel
> > > > > >> cool (to me) but after about 10 seconds, the blower turns off
> again
> > > > > >> for no apparent reason.
> > >
> > > > > >> I have checked the breaker and it is OK.
> > >
> > > > > >> The blower is made by first co. and the model is 30RAQT-3.
> > >
> > > > > >> Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > > > >Sorry forgot to mention that I just replaced the filter too. It
> was
> > > > > >pretty dirty (but not HORRIBLE) and I changed it AFTER this
problem
> > > > > >occurred.
> > >
> > > > > Put the old one back and see what happens.
> > >
> > > > > --
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> > >
> > > !!!http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
> > > > > 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
> > > > > 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
> > > > > HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
> > > > > Free demo now available onlinehttp://pmilligan.net/palm/
> > >
> > > > Yes, the heat is ridiculous!!
> > >
> > > > The old filter didn't work and the old tstat didn't work either.
> > >
> > > It's always the stat!! Hehe..
> >
> > I wish it was. Two stats and no results? If the wires I have are RC,
> > Y, G, and W, what can I do to "hotwire" it?
>
> Twist them together.
>

Lowers the humidity at least...

--


Posted by on July 12, 2007, 9:52 pm

        Wow ! That must suck ! It's fucking hot out !



>Recently my HVAC in my condo stopped working. The fan will not come
>on. Even when I click the tstat to have the fan "on" instead of
>"auto".
>
>There is a switch for the blower/fan that is next to the intake vent
>(and where the fan actually is) that I turn off to service the filter,
>and if I turn this switch to off, then to on, the fan will whirr up
>and stay on for about 10 seconds. During this time, the air does feel
>cool (to me) but after about 10 seconds, the blower turns off again
>for no apparent reason.
>
>I have checked the breaker and it is OK.
>
>The blower is made by first co. and the model is 30RAQT-3.
>
>Any thoughts?

        Let's see ..... are you a trained competnent HVAC technician ?
Because that's pretty much what it's gonna take....


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Posted by Tony on July 13, 2007, 1:45 pm
It sound like your circulation fan kicking out on thermal overload
cause? few different things, one perhaps all it needs some lubrication
or running cap shorted or your voltage to low or it simply wants
take vacation be prepare to purchase new one.
Tony


> Recently my HVAC in my condo stopped working. The fan will not come
> on. Even when I click the tstat to have the fan "on" instead of
> "auto".
>
> There is a switch for the blower/fan that is next to the intake vent
> (and where the fan actually is) that I turn off to service the filter,
> and if I turn this switch to off, then to on, the fan will whirr up
> and stay on for about 10 seconds. During this time, the air does feel
> cool (to me) but after about 10 seconds, the blower turns off again
> for no apparent reason.
>
> I have checked the breaker and it is OK.
>
> The blower is made by first co. and the model is 30RAQT-3.
>
> Any thoughts?
>



Posted by Andrew on July 13, 2007, 7:16 pm
> It sound like your circulation fan kicking out on thermal overload
> cause? few different things, one perhaps all it needs some lubrication
> or running cap shorted or your voltage to low or it simply wants
> take vacation be prepare to purchase new one.
> Tony
>
>
>
> > Recently my HVAC in my condo stopped working. The fan will not come
> > on. Even when I click the tstat to have the fan "on" instead of
> > "auto".
>
> > There is a switch for the blower/fan that is next to the intake vent
> > (and where the fan actually is) that I turn off to service the filter,
> > and if I turn this switch to off, then to on, the fan will whirr up
> > and stay on for about 10 seconds. During this time, the air does feel
> > cool (to me) but after about 10 seconds, the blower turns off again
> > for no apparent reason.
>
> > I have checked the breaker and it is OK.
>
> > The blower is made by first co. and the model is 30RAQT-3.
>
> > Any thoughts?

I was able to check the relay inside the outside unit (which has the
fan and compressor). I found the following.

-The side coming from the switch out there has 110V.
-The other side does not.
-If I leave all power down and push down on the contactor, it fires up
the compressor and as long as I hold it, it runs and seems to run ok
(only tried this once because I didn't want to start/stop the
compressor over and over).

I'm trying to measure the voltage that turns on the relay but I
haven't seen any voltage there so I'm not 100% sure it's the relay.
I'm not sure how the tstat works?

Of the 4 wires I have, W,Y,G, and RC, as the system sits right now,
there is no voltage on any of them. If I flip off the indoor blower
switch, then turn it back on, I get voltage between the W and G
lines. I haven't been able to check if there is voltage outside at
the relay during this because I don't have another person here right
now to help me check. It appears as if the RC and W lines are the
ones that connect to the relay, though. I haven't been able to read
any voltage on these lines yet.

I'm wondering two things:

1. Does blower/fan "check" to see if the outside unit is working and
shut down after 10 seconds or so if it is not?
2. How does the whole system work, ie, how does the tstat control
it? It looks like it is just a bunch of relays and does not provide
any actual power? What provides the power? The blower/fan circuit
that provides the voltage on the W and G lines when it turns on? Is
the RC supposed to have voltage between it and another line? Does
this sound like a relay problem? I'm in the process of finding places
locally to replace the relay as I it looks like it will be cheap to
try it anyway.

Any thoughts?


Posted by on July 13, 2007, 7:24 pm

>> It sound like your circulation fan kicking out on thermal overload
>> cause? few different things, one perhaps all it needs some lubrication
>> or running cap shorted or your voltage to low or it simply wants
>> take vacation be prepare to purchase new one.
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> > Recently my HVAC in my condo stopped working. The fan will not come
>> > on. Even when I click the tstat to have the fan "on" instead of
>> > "auto".
>>
>> > There is a switch for the blower/fan that is next to the intake vent
>> > (and where the fan actually is) that I turn off to service the filter,
>> > and if I turn this switch to off, then to on, the fan will whirr up
>> > and stay on for about 10 seconds. During this time, the air does feel
>> > cool (to me) but after about 10 seconds, the blower turns off again
>> > for no apparent reason.
>>
>> > I have checked the breaker and it is OK.
>>
>> > The blower is made by first co. and the model is 30RAQT-3.
>>
>> > Any thoughts?
>
>I was able to check the relay inside the outside unit (which has the
>fan and compressor). I found the following.
>
>-The side coming from the switch out there has 110V.
>-The other side does not.
>-If I leave all power down and push down on the contactor, it fires up
>the compressor and as long as I hold it, it runs and seems to run ok
>(only tried this once because I didn't want to start/stop the
>compressor over and over).
>
>I'm trying to measure the voltage that turns on the relay but I
>haven't seen any voltage there so I'm not 100% sure it's the relay.
>I'm not sure how the tstat works?
>
>Of the 4 wires I have, W,Y,G, and RC, as the system sits right now,
>there is no voltage on any of them. If I flip off the indoor blower
>switch, then turn it back on, I get voltage between the W and G
>lines. I haven't been able to check if there is voltage outside at
>the relay during this because I don't have another person here right
>now to help me check. It appears as if the RC and W lines are the
>ones that connect to the relay, though. I haven't been able to read
>any voltage on these lines yet.
>
>I'm wondering two things:
>
>1. Does blower/fan "check" to see if the outside unit is working and
>shut down after 10 seconds or so if it is not?
>2. How does the whole system work, ie, how does the tstat control
>it? It looks like it is just a bunch of relays and does not provide
>any actual power? What provides the power? The blower/fan circuit
>that provides the voltage on the W and G lines when it turns on? Is
>the RC supposed to have voltage between it and another line? Does
>this sound like a relay problem? I'm in the process of finding places
>locally to replace the relay as I it looks like it will be cheap to
>try it anyway.
>
>Any thoughts?

        You are well on your way to spending more on wrong parts than
you would paying to get it fixed right.

        Carry on.


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Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/

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