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HVAC not working! Andrew 07-12-2007
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Posted by Andrew on July 13, 2007, 7:28 pm
On Jul 13, 7:24 pm, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> >> It sound like your circulation fan kicking out on thermal overload
> >> cause? few different things, one perhaps all it needs some lubrication
> >> or running cap shorted or your voltage to low or it simply wants
> >> take vacation be prepare to purchase new one.
> >> Tony
>
>
>
> >> > Recently my HVAC in my condo stopped working. The fan will not come
> >> > on. Even when I click the tstat to have the fan "on" instead of
> >> > "auto".
>
> >> > There is a switch for the blower/fan that is next to the intake vent
> >> > (and where the fan actually is) that I turn off to service the filter,
> >> > and if I turn this switch to off, then to on, the fan will whirr up
> >> > and stay on for about 10 seconds. During this time, the air does feel
> >> > cool (to me) but after about 10 seconds, the blower turns off again
> >> > for no apparent reason.
>
> >> > I have checked the breaker and it is OK.
>
> >> > The blower is made by first co. and the model is 30RAQT-3.
>
> >> > Any thoughts?
>
> >I was able to check the relay inside the outside unit (which has the
> >fan and compressor). I found the following.
>
> >-The side coming from the switch out there has 110V.
> >-The other side does not.
> >-If I leave all power down and push down on the contactor, it fires up
> >the compressor and as long as I hold it, it runs and seems to run ok
> >(only tried this once because I didn't want to start/stop the
> >compressor over and over).
>
> >I'm trying to measure the voltage that turns on the relay but I
> >haven't seen any voltage there so I'm not 100% sure it's the relay.
> >I'm not sure how the tstat works?
>
> >Of the 4 wires I have, W,Y,G, and RC, as the system sits right now,
> >there is no voltage on any of them. If I flip off the indoor blower
> >switch, then turn it back on, I get voltage between the W and G
> >lines. I haven't been able to check if there is voltage outside at
> >the relay during this because I don't have another person here right
> >now to help me check. It appears as if the RC and W lines are the
> >ones that connect to the relay, though. I haven't been able to read
> >any voltage on these lines yet.
>
> >I'm wondering two things:
>
> >1. Does blower/fan "check" to see if the outside unit is working and
> >shut down after 10 seconds or so if it is not?
> >2. How does the whole system work, ie, how does the tstat control
> >it? It looks like it is just a bunch of relays and does not provide
> >any actual power? What provides the power? The blower/fan circuit
> >that provides the voltage on the W and G lines when it turns on? Is
> >the RC supposed to have voltage between it and another line? Does
> >this sound like a relay problem? I'm in the process of finding places
> >locally to replace the relay as I it looks like it will be cheap to
> >try it anyway.
>
> >Any thoughts?
>
> You are well on your way to spending more on wrong parts than
> you would paying to get it fixed right.
>
> Carry on.
>
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>
> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
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Do you have any helpful information for me? If not, can you please
not respond to any more of my posts?

Thank you.


Posted by on July 13, 2007, 7:59 pm

>On Jul 13, 7:24 pm, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:

>>
>> You are well on your way to spending more on wrong parts than
>> you would paying to get it fixed right.
>>
>> Carry on.

>Do you have any helpful information for me? If not, can you please
>not respond to any more of my posts?
>
>Thank you.

        I just GAVE you the most helpful information you'll get from
ANYONE.

        Now, you pissy little cheap-assed DIY home-moaner - who the
fuck do you think you are, trying to tell me 'don't respond' ??? You
fucking moron, I helped INVENT this forum 12 years, I helped CREATE it
and BUILD it, and it's not for pissy little cunts like you trying to
save a buck by throwing parts they don't even know the name of at a
machine they don't fucking understand.

        So, shove it up your ass , bitch.

        I COULD save you at leat $ 40 right now, right here in this
post, but I won't, because you're an asshole.


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Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/

Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski on July 13, 2007, 8:31 pm


>
> Do you have any helpful information for me?
>

Go eat shit and die ?

>
> If not, can you please not respond to any more of my posts?
>

Let us know when ":The Cabal" disbands--leaving you in charge of usenet...

>
> Thank you.
>

Shove it up your ass sideways, you fucking moron.

--


Posted by Andrew on July 13, 2007, 8:54 pm
>
>
>
>
> > Do you have any helpful information for me?
>
> Go eat shit and die ?
>
>
>
> > If not, can you please not respond to any more of my posts?
>
> Let us know when ":The Cabal" disbands--leaving you in charge of usenet...
>
>
>
> > Thank you.
>
> Shove it up your ass sideways, you fucking moron.
>
> --

Haha. This is the shittiest forum I've ever joined.

Thanks for nothing, seriously.

And for the future, how about I give you an EXAMPLE of what a HELPFUL
answer should look like, because it seems that in your 12 years on
this forum, you've forgotten.

"Based on what you've told us, it could be a few things. It could be
a low charge, a blown fuse, a bad relay or a number of other things.
If it were me diagnosing it, I would start by checking the power at
the relay leads. If it doesn't have power there, you've found at
least part of your problem." Etc etc etc etc. Ending with something
like "If you don't understand exactly what you're doing with this, you
really should consult a professional, because it is very easy to
permanently damage your system."

Your posts to me are absolutely USELESS. If I knew I was going to
have some 12 year olds giving me the typical "sounds broken" and "that
must suck" and "call a pro" responses, I wouldn't have posted on this
forum at all. Literally anyone can troll these forums and answer
questions about things they know absolutely nothing about with answers
like that. I came here for actual help, and I'm sorry that I haven't
gotten any. Luckily I have found other much more helpful forums where
assholes like you haven't invaded yet.

Anyway, thanks again, for nothing.


Posted by on July 13, 2007, 9:02 pm

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Do you have any helpful information for me?
>>
>> Go eat shit and die ?
>>
>>
>>
>> > If not, can you please not respond to any more of my posts?
>>
>> Let us know when ":The Cabal" disbands--leaving you in charge of usenet...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Thank you.
>>
>> Shove it up your ass sideways, you fucking moron.
>>
>> --
>
>Haha. This is the shittiest forum I've ever joined.
>
>Thanks for nothing, seriously.

        Blow us. Seriously.

>
>And for the future, how about I give you an EXAMPLE of what a HELPFUL
>answer should look like, because it seems that in your 12 years on
>this forum, you've forgotten.

        The HELPFUL answer is the one I gave you.

>
>"Based on what you've told us, it could be a few things. It could be
>a low charge, a blown fuse, a bad relay or a number of other things.
>If it were me diagnosing it, I would start by checking the power at
>the relay leads. If it doesn't have power there, you've found at
>least part of your problem." Etc etc etc etc. Ending with something
>like "If you don't understand exactly what you're doing with this, you
>really should consult a professional, because it is very easy to
>permanently damage your system."

        I fucking told you that, in a lot fewer words. You got pissy
about it.


>Your posts to me are absolutely USELESS. If I knew I was going to
>have some 12 year olds giving me the typical "sounds broken" and "that
>must suck" and "call a pro" responses, I wouldn't have posted on this
>forum at all. Literally anyone can troll these forums and answer
>questions about things they know absolutely nothing about with answers
>like that. I came here for actual help, and I'm sorry that I haven't
>gotten any. Luckily I have found other much more helpful forums where
>assholes like you haven't invaded yet.

        Good. Fucking go away.

>
>Anyway, thanks again, for nothing.

        Thanks again for your payment in the same amount.


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Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/

Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/

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