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Posted by David White on December 25, 2008, 11:53 am
David White wrote:
> David White wrote:
>> doh! wrote:
>>>> Injun Ear wrote:
>>>>> Come on, guys, how bout giving him a straight answer. It's probably
>>>>> going through a defrost cycle. Your HVAC guy can adjust it so that
>>>>> the
>>>>> heat strips kick in when it's in defrost so you don't feel so cold.
>>>> Thanks. I have tried putting the thing into emergency heat mode and I
>>>> find that this both gets heat coming from the registers but also gets
>>>> the aux heat indicator showing on the thermostat. So it seems that at
>>>> least part of the thermostat is ok and that the heater is working.
>>>> But I
>>>> am not sure what to conclude must be wrong here. Happy holidays!
>>> Most likely there's nothing at all wrong with your thermostat--but
>>> with a
>>> trane / american standard then in order to get your electric strips
>>> to come
>>> on during condensor defrost you need to connect the black wire ( defrost
>>> signal ) at the condensing unit outside up to the aux heat terminal
>>> at the
>>> inside air handler--probably you'll find there is a spare white wire
>>> that
>>> you can use for this.
>>> --
>> Thanks for your tip and happy holidays to you. Can you think of any
>> reason why this would have been working fine and suddenly stops
>> working? Perhaps it is in some way due to this very long and cold
>> spell we have had here in Seattle recently? I have to believe that
>> this has been wired correctly as I know I have seen the aux heat
>> indicator come on the thermostat before. I remember having to look it
>> up in the thermostat manual to find out what it means. Cheers!
>
> Thanks once again for your responses. I just found some info on the
> internet here
>
<http://en.allexperts.com/q/Heating-Air-Conditioning-696/2008/2/Heat-pump-thermostat-control.htm>
>
> and here
>
<http://en.allexperts.com/q/Heating-Air-Conditioning-696/2008/2/Heat-pump-thermostat-control.htm>
>
> that made me start checking things more carefully.
>
> When this cold spell hit, I raised the temperatures on my thermostat
> schedules. I have never done this before. Under the previous schedule, I
> had simply raised the temp manually on the thermostat to what I wanted
> when needed. Thinking back, this is when I typically saw the aux heat
> indicator show on the thermostat.
>
> So I just manually raised the temperature from its current setting by a
> couple degrees and indeed the thermostat does show the aux heat
> indicator. For this reason, I am thinking that the aux heater does, in
> fact, work.
>
> However, I am not sure about if it is working during the defrost cycle
> of the heat pump. I only found out recently that there was such a thing.
> I may never have noticed it before because it has never been this cold
> this long since I have been in this house with the heat pump. Maybe the
> heat pump only has to go through a defrost cycle when it is very cold.
> Or maybe it does it frequently but I have only noticed it now because
> the air being used right now is so very cold.
>
> Do I have to call in a pro to see it the thing is properly set/wired so
> that the aux heat comes on during the defrost cycle? Or is there some
> way I can check that?
>
> Thanks and happy holidays to all!
It has been suggested that the thermostat is in adaptive recovery mode
because I switched the scheduled temperatures. An I have seen the
recovery indicator on the thermostat so that must be the case.
I think I understand that while in this mode, the thermostat does NOT
call upon the aux heater. The manual says it can take about a week for
the system to adjust. But does this recovery mode only kick-in around
the time(s) that the schedule changes? It seems like that is the only
time I see the recover indicator shown on the thermostat.
I feel the cold blasts at times other than when the schedule changes and
I see the recovery indicator on the thermostat. So these may be defrost
periods. Would the thermostat in recovery mode have any effect on the
use of the aux heater during defrost?
I feel that with your help I am starting to focus in on the problem and
actually understand a little more of how my system works. Thanks again
for all your time and help. Happy holidays.
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Posted by Noon-Air on December 25, 2008, 12:45 pm
>> Do I have to call in a pro to see it the thing is properly set/wired so
>> that the aux heat comes on during the defrost cycle? Or is there some way
>> I can check that?
>> Thanks and happy holidays to all!
> It has been suggested that the thermostat is in adaptive recovery mode
> because I switched the scheduled temperatures. An I have seen the recovery
> indicator on the thermostat so that must be the case.
> I think I understand that while in this mode, the thermostat does NOT call
> upon the aux heater. The manual says it can take about a week for the
> system to adjust. But does this recovery mode only kick-in around the
> time(s) that the schedule changes? It seems like that is the only time I
> see the recover indicator shown on the thermostat.
> I feel the cold blasts at times other than when the schedule changes and I
> see the recovery indicator on the thermostat. So these may be defrost
> periods. Would the thermostat in recovery mode have any effect on the use
> of the aux heater during defrost?
> I feel that with your help I am starting to focus in on the problem and
> actually understand a little more of how my system works. Thanks again for
> all your time and help. Happy holidays.
Obviously your not happy or comfortable with the way the system is
operating. We can't check it or make any needed repairs or adjustments
through the computer. Instead of screwing around on here and never *KNOWING*
if its its right or not, make the call to your favorite *competent*,
licensed, insured, professionally trained, HVAC technician to come check the
system, make any needed repairs/adjustments, and service the system. This
will remove all doubt if its right or not. Ask your servicing technician
about a prefered customer service agreement.
No, its not gonna be free, and I highly discourage using the lowest priced
contractor. The required training, education and experience are not free,
nor is the truck, nor or the spare parts inventory on the truck...for that
matter, the techs time isn't free either. Small companies are a good thing
because you know that the teck will most likely either be the owner or a
very well trained tech, as opposed to the large companies where you never
know who your gonna get.
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Posted by The King on December 25, 2008, 12:59 pm
wrote:
>>> Do I have to call in a pro to see it the thing is properly set/wired so
>>> that the aux heat comes on during the defrost cycle? Or is there some way
>>> I can check that?
>>> Thanks and happy holidays to all!
>> It has been suggested that the thermostat is in adaptive recovery mode
>> because I switched the scheduled temperatures. An I have seen the recovery
>> indicator on the thermostat so that must be the case.
>> I think I understand that while in this mode, the thermostat does NOT call
>> upon the aux heater. The manual says it can take about a week for the
>> system to adjust. But does this recovery mode only kick-in around the
>> time(s) that the schedule changes? It seems like that is the only time I
>> see the recover indicator shown on the thermostat.
>> I feel the cold blasts at times other than when the schedule changes and I
>> see the recovery indicator on the thermostat. So these may be defrost
>> periods. Would the thermostat in recovery mode have any effect on the use
>> of the aux heater during defrost?
>> I feel that with your help I am starting to focus in on the problem and
>> actually understand a little more of how my system works. Thanks again for
>> all your time and help. Happy holidays.
>Obviously your not happy or comfortable with the way the system is
>operating. We can't check it or make any needed repairs or adjustments
>through the computer. Instead of screwing around on here and never *KNOWING*
>if its its right or not, make the call to your favorite *competent*,
>licensed, insured, professionally trained, HVAC technician to come check the
>system, make any needed repairs/adjustments, and service the system. This
>will remove all doubt if its right or not. Ask your servicing technician
>about a prefered customer service agreement.
>No, its not gonna be free, and I highly discourage using the lowest priced
>contractor. The required training, education and experience are not free,
>nor is the truck, nor or the spare parts inventory on the truck...for that
>matter, the techs time isn't free either. Small companies are a good thing
>because you know that the teck will most likely either be the owner or a
>very well trained tech, as opposed to the large companies where you never
>know who your gonna get.
Obviously a biased small company speel...
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Posted by Noon-Air on December 25, 2008, 2:01 pm
> wrote:
>>>> Do I have to call in a pro to see it the thing is properly set/wired so
>>>> that the aux heat comes on during the defrost cycle? Or is there some
>>>> way
>>>> I can check that?
>>>> Thanks and happy holidays to all!
>>> It has been suggested that the thermostat is in adaptive recovery mode
>>> because I switched the scheduled temperatures. An I have seen the
>>> recovery
>>> indicator on the thermostat so that must be the case.
>>> I think I understand that while in this mode, the thermostat does NOT
>>> call
>>> upon the aux heater. The manual says it can take about a week for the
>>> system to adjust. But does this recovery mode only kick-in around the
>>> time(s) that the schedule changes? It seems like that is the only time I
>>> see the recover indicator shown on the thermostat.
>>> I feel the cold blasts at times other than when the schedule changes and
>>> I
>>> see the recovery indicator on the thermostat. So these may be defrost
>>> periods. Would the thermostat in recovery mode have any effect on the
>>> use
>>> of the aux heater during defrost?
>>> I feel that with your help I am starting to focus in on the problem and
>>> actually understand a little more of how my system works. Thanks again
>>> for
>>> all your time and help. Happy holidays.
>>Obviously your not happy or comfortable with the way the system is
>>operating. We can't check it or make any needed repairs or adjustments
>>through the computer. Instead of screwing around on here and never
>>*KNOWING*
>>if its its right or not, make the call to your favorite *competent*,
>>licensed, insured, professionally trained, HVAC technician to come check
>>the
>>system, make any needed repairs/adjustments, and service the system. This
>>will remove all doubt if its right or not. Ask your servicing technician
>>about a prefered customer service agreement.
>>No, its not gonna be free, and I highly discourage using the lowest priced
>>contractor. The required training, education and experience are not free,
>>nor is the truck, nor or the spare parts inventory on the truck...for that
>>matter, the techs time isn't free either. Small companies are a good thing
>>because you know that the teck will most likely either be the owner or a
>>very well trained tech, as opposed to the large companies where you never
>>know who your gonna get.
> Obviously a biased small company speel...
In a non-union world, where there is no actual apprenticeship or journeyman
levels. Master level is achieved through passing SBCCI, NATE, or other
recognized equivelancy exams. Master level is *REQUIRED* to even qualify to
take the SBCCI Contractor exam. Here, the big companies only have one or 2
that are certified Masters, and most of the rest of their "techs" are
anybody that can fog a mirror. With *legitimate* small companies, its a
different matter entirely.
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Posted by The King on December 25, 2008, 2:51 pm
wrote:
>> wrote:
>>>>> Do I have to call in a pro to see it the thing is properly set/wired so
>>>>> that the aux heat comes on during the defrost cycle? Or is there some
>>>>> way
>>>>> I can check that?
>>>>> Thanks and happy holidays to all!
>>>> It has been suggested that the thermostat is in adaptive recovery mode
>>>> because I switched the scheduled temperatures. An I have seen the
>>>> recovery
>>>> indicator on the thermostat so that must be the case.
>>>> I think I understand that while in this mode, the thermostat does NOT
>>>> call
>>>> upon the aux heater. The manual says it can take about a week for the
>>>> system to adjust. But does this recovery mode only kick-in around the
>>>> time(s) that the schedule changes? It seems like that is the only time I
>>>> see the recover indicator shown on the thermostat.
>>>> I feel the cold blasts at times other than when the schedule changes and
>>>> I
>>>> see the recovery indicator on the thermostat. So these may be defrost
>>>> periods. Would the thermostat in recovery mode have any effect on the
>>>> use
>>>> of the aux heater during defrost?
>>>> I feel that with your help I am starting to focus in on the problem and
>>>> actually understand a little more of how my system works. Thanks again
>>>> for
>>>> all your time and help. Happy holidays.
>>>Obviously your not happy or comfortable with the way the system is
>>>operating. We can't check it or make any needed repairs or adjustments
>>>through the computer. Instead of screwing around on here and never
>>>*KNOWING*
>>>if its its right or not, make the call to your favorite *competent*,
>>>licensed, insured, professionally trained, HVAC technician to come check
>>>the
>>>system, make any needed repairs/adjustments, and service the system. This
>>>will remove all doubt if its right or not. Ask your servicing technician
>>>about a prefered customer service agreement.
>>>No, its not gonna be free, and I highly discourage using the lowest priced
>>>contractor. The required training, education and experience are not free,
>>>nor is the truck, nor or the spare parts inventory on the truck...for that
>>>matter, the techs time isn't free either. Small companies are a good thing
>>>because you know that the teck will most likely either be the owner or a
>>>very well trained tech, as opposed to the large companies where you never
>>>know who your gonna get.
>> Obviously a biased small company speel...
>In a non-union world, where there is no actual apprenticeship or journeyman
>levels. Master level is achieved through passing SBCCI, NATE, or other
>recognized equivelancy exams. Master level is *REQUIRED* to even qualify to
>take the SBCCI Contractor exam. Here, the big companies only have one or 2
>that are certified Masters, and most of the rest of their "techs" are
>anybody that can fog a mirror. With *legitimate* small companies, its a
>different matter entirely.
So then stormy is better because he is a small company.
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