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Heat Pump Troubleshooting formlessreflections 07-06-2006
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Posted by on July 6, 2006, 3:19 pm
Hi-

I don't have the specifics of my hvac on hand but recently it started
failing on me. The first time it failed was early this summer when I
first turned the ac on. The outside condensing unit fan was not
spinning and of course no cold air was coming out of my vents. The
indoors blower/coil was fine.

I called a tech and he replaced the "coil" which he said was the
problem. He told me that the coil was failing and that was why the
condensor fan was not starting. Before he replaced the coil he was
able to get it started by giving it a turn.

Today, a month later, the same thing has happened. I went home durring
lunch to find that the condensor fan was not spinning. I killed the
breaker and took an access panel off so that I could access the fan in
order to give it a nudge and apply power. However, before I did that I
thought that I would try to flip the breaker one more time and apply
power to the unit. It came on and is working now.

So my question is a general one. What parts of the unit are
responsible for the fan operation? What should I have a tech look at?
No, I don't plan on fixing it myself but after paying a tech already to
"fix" it once I'd much rather be armed with information the next time
around. The last time I felt so naked without some sort of knowledge.

Thanks for any info you can give.


Posted by Noon-Air on July 6, 2006, 5:35 pm

> Hi-
>
> I don't have the specifics of my hvac on hand but recently it started
> failing on me. The first time it failed was early this summer when I
> first turned the ac on. The outside condensing unit fan was not
> spinning and of course no cold air was coming out of my vents. The
> indoors blower/coil was fine.
>
> I called a tech and he replaced the "coil" which he said was the
> problem. He told me that the coil was failing and that was why the
> condensor fan was not starting. Before he replaced the coil he was
> able to get it started by giving it a turn.
>
> Today, a month later, the same thing has happened. I went home durring
> lunch to find that the condensor fan was not spinning. I killed the
> breaker and took an access panel off so that I could access the fan in
> order to give it a nudge and apply power. However, before I did that I
> thought that I would try to flip the breaker one more time and apply
> power to the unit. It came on and is working now.
>
> So my question is a general one. What parts of the unit are
> responsible for the fan operation? What should I have a tech look at?
> No, I don't plan on fixing it myself but after paying a tech already to
> "fix" it once I'd much rather be armed with information the next time
> around. The last time I felt so naked without some sort of knowledge.
>
> Thanks for any info you can give

I would look at the yellow pages to find a tech that knows what he is doing.
The one you got is feeding you a twinky filled with something you wouldn't
want to step in.



Posted by on July 6, 2006, 8:49 pm
formlessreflections@yahoo.com wrote:

>Hi-
>
>I don't have the specifics of my hvac on hand but recently it started
>failing on me. The first time it failed was early this summer when I
>first turned the ac on. The outside condensing unit fan was not
>spinning and of course no cold air was coming out of my vents. The
>indoors blower/coil was fine.


sure would be nice to know if you have a heat pump or straight ac
condenser. might make a huge difference.
>
>I called a tech and he replaced the "coil" which he said was the
>problem. He told me that the coil was failing and that was why the
>condensor fan was not starting. Before he replaced the coil he was
>able to get it started by giving it a turn.

from the sounds of your gibberish, the tech was probably referring to
the capacitor for the CF motor.
>
>Today, a month later, the same thing has happened. I went home durring
>lunch to find that the condensor fan was not spinning. I killed the
>breaker and took an access panel off so that I could access the fan in
>order to give it a nudge and apply power. However, before I did that I
>thought that I would try to flip the breaker one more time and apply
>power to the unit. It came on and is working now.
>
>So my question is a general one. What parts of the unit are
>responsible for the fan operation?

depends on if its a heat pump condenser or straight ac.

What should I have a tech look at?
>No, I don't plan on fixing it myself but after paying a tech already to
>"fix" it once I'd much rather be armed with information the next time
>around. The last time I felt so naked without some sort of knowledge.
>
>Thanks for any info you can give.

Look for a tech in his late 40's or 50's. Chances are you'll be
getting someone who has a clue what he's doing, and there's a high
probability he's honest as well.

Next, stand over his shoulder and watch every single thing he does.
Ask him to explaiin what each component does, and how they interact
with each other.

Ask him to explain how hot air from inside your house is transferred
to outside.

Posted by on July 7, 2006, 8:17 am
I have a heat pump. The "coil" he replaced was indeed a capacitor, so
that's been done. The way he described the part was that it was sort
of like an ignition coil for an automobile. With the prevelance of
coils in these systems I should have used the proper word "capacitor"
to describe the part that has been replaced.

I was reading yesterday and some notes I took were:

overload setting
compressor windings resistance
tripped overload ???
defective lockout relay

I'm thinking that whatever it is only requires a power cycling to
reset. The wiring looks good, as in not all ratty, corroded etc.

Thanks guys.






gofish@gonefishin.net wrote:
> formlessreflections@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Hi-
> >
> >I don't have the specifics of my hvac on hand but recently it started
> >failing on me. The first time it failed was early this summer when I
> >first turned the ac on. The outside condensing unit fan was not
> >spinning and of course no cold air was coming out of my vents. The
> >indoors blower/coil was fine.
>
>
> sure would be nice to know if you have a heat pump or straight ac
> condenser. might make a huge difference.
> >
> >I called a tech and he replaced the "coil" which he said was the
> >problem. He told me that the coil was failing and that was why the
> >condensor fan was not starting. Before he replaced the coil he was
> >able to get it started by giving it a turn.
>
> from the sounds of your gibberish, the tech was probably referring to
> the capacitor for the CF motor.
> >
> >Today, a month later, the same thing has happened. I went home durring
> >lunch to find that the condensor fan was not spinning. I killed the
> >breaker and took an access panel off so that I could access the fan in
> >order to give it a nudge and apply power. However, before I did that I
> >thought that I would try to flip the breaker one more time and apply
> >power to the unit. It came on and is working now.
> >
> >So my question is a general one. What parts of the unit are
> >responsible for the fan operation?
>
> depends on if its a heat pump condenser or straight ac.
>
> What should I have a tech look at?
> >No, I don't plan on fixing it myself but after paying a tech already to
> >"fix" it once I'd much rather be armed with information the next time
> >around. The last time I felt so naked without some sort of knowledge.
> >
> >Thanks for any info you can give.
>
> Look for a tech in his late 40's or 50's. Chances are you'll be
> getting someone who has a clue what he's doing, and there's a high
> probability he's honest as well.
>
> Next, stand over his shoulder and watch every single thing he does.
> Ask him to explaiin what each component does, and how they interact
> with each other.
>
> Ask him to explain how hot air from inside your house is transferred
> to outside.


Posted by Stormin Mormon on July 6, 2006, 10:27 pm
Fan run capacitor.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
.

Hi-

I don't have the specifics of my hvac on hand but recently it started
failing on me. The first time it failed was early this summer when I
first turned the ac on. The outside condensing unit fan was not
spinning and of course no cold air was coming out of my vents. The
indoors blower/coil was fine.

I called a tech and he replaced the "coil" which he said was the
problem. He told me that the coil was failing and that was why the
condensor fan was not starting. Before he replaced the coil he was
able to get it started by giving it a turn.

Today, a month later, the same thing has happened. I went home
durring
lunch to find that the condensor fan was not spinning. I killed the
breaker and took an access panel off so that I could access the fan in
order to give it a nudge and apply power. However, before I did that
I
thought that I would try to flip the breaker one more time and apply
power to the unit. It came on and is working now.

So my question is a general one. What parts of the unit are
responsible for the fan operation? What should I have a tech look at?
No, I don't plan on fixing it myself but after paying a tech already
to
"fix" it once I'd much rather be armed with information the next time
around. The last time I felt so naked without some sort of knowledge.

Thanks for any info you can give.



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