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Posted by The King on November 18, 2009, 9:45 pm
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>> The twenty year old building I attend services. Cinder block
>> walls, flat roof. The heat is natural gas, 80 percenters
>> (induced flue draft). The building has seven zones. Plus,
>> three offices have a mini split.
>> The problem is that three rooms are too hot. The primary
>> (kids class room) is in zone 6. Sometimes it's too cold, so
>> they push the thermostat to occupied. And much of the time
>> it's too hot, and so they open the windows.
>> The library with the copier is too hot. And a computer, both
>> of them throwing heat. I don't think they have a laminator,
>> or other heater. Could be in zone 5 or 4, not sure. If it's
>> zone 5, the thermostat is down the hall and around the
>> corner. If it's zone four, the thermostat is around the
>> other corner and down the other hall.
>> The nursery is probably in zone 4. They have two windows.
>> They typically open the windows to let the heat out.
>> Thermostat is around the corner in another room (the other
>> room has a copier right under the thermostat).
>> I havn't found any dampers, yet.
>> Any ideas how to keep everyone comfortable? Windows open is
>> a security problem because the teachers usually forget to
>> reclose them.
>Re-locate the controls, run a Manual D, and when you're re-doing the
>ductwork, consider adding zoning dampers with individual controls for each
>new zone.
First he would have to know the heating requirements for each room
before he can run a duct calc. If he managed (doubtful) to do it
right and made the necessary duct corrections (more doubt) there
wouldn't be any need for control relocation. The best advice to
stormy is for him to tell his church he's incompetent and call a pro.
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Posted by Noon-Air on November 19, 2009, 1:59 pm
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>>> The twenty year old building I attend services. Cinder block
>>> walls, flat roof. The heat is natural gas, 80 percenters
>>> (induced flue draft). The building has seven zones. Plus,
>>> three offices have a mini split.
>>> The problem is that three rooms are too hot. The primary
>>> (kids class room) is in zone 6. Sometimes it's too cold, so
>>> they push the thermostat to occupied. And much of the time
>>> it's too hot, and so they open the windows.
>>> The library with the copier is too hot. And a computer, both
>>> of them throwing heat. I don't think they have a laminator,
>>> or other heater. Could be in zone 5 or 4, not sure. If it's
>>> zone 5, the thermostat is down the hall and around the
>>> corner. If it's zone four, the thermostat is around the
>>> other corner and down the other hall.
>>> The nursery is probably in zone 4. They have two windows.
>>> They typically open the windows to let the heat out.
>>> Thermostat is around the corner in another room (the other
>>> room has a copier right under the thermostat).
>>> I havn't found any dampers, yet.
>>> Any ideas how to keep everyone comfortable? Windows open is
>>> a security problem because the teachers usually forget to
>>> reclose them.
>>Re-locate the controls, run a Manual D, and when you're re-doing the
>>ductwork, consider adding zoning dampers with individual controls for each
>>new zone.
> First he would have to know the heating requirements for each room
> before he can run a duct calc. If he managed (doubtful) to do it
> right and made the necessary duct corrections (more doubt) there
> wouldn't be any need for control relocation. The best advice to
> stormy is for him to tell his church he's incompetent and call a pro.
I only suggested that he re-locate the srtats because it sounded like they
weren't even in the zones that they controlled. As far as the actual heating
requirements, that is part and parcel for the duct calcs... but then again,
we are dealing with the mormon.
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Posted by The King on November 19, 2009, 4:48 pm
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>> wrote:
>>>> The twenty year old building I attend services. Cinder block
>>>> walls, flat roof. The heat is natural gas, 80 percenters
>>>> (induced flue draft). The building has seven zones. Plus,
>>>> three offices have a mini split.
>>>> The problem is that three rooms are too hot. The primary
>>>> (kids class room) is in zone 6. Sometimes it's too cold, so
>>>> they push the thermostat to occupied. And much of the time
>>>> it's too hot, and so they open the windows.
>>>> The library with the copier is too hot. And a computer, both
>>>> of them throwing heat. I don't think they have a laminator,
>>>> or other heater. Could be in zone 5 or 4, not sure. If it's
>>>> zone 5, the thermostat is down the hall and around the
>>>> corner. If it's zone four, the thermostat is around the
>>>> other corner and down the other hall.
>>>> The nursery is probably in zone 4. They have two windows.
>>>> They typically open the windows to let the heat out.
>>>> Thermostat is around the corner in another room (the other
>>>> room has a copier right under the thermostat).
>>>> I havn't found any dampers, yet.
>>>> Any ideas how to keep everyone comfortable? Windows open is
>>>> a security problem because the teachers usually forget to
>>>> reclose them.
>>>Re-locate the controls, run a Manual D, and when you're re-doing the
>>>ductwork, consider adding zoning dampers with individual controls for each
>>>new zone.
>> First he would have to know the heating requirements for each room
>> before he can run a duct calc. If he managed (doubtful) to do it
>> right and made the necessary duct corrections (more doubt) there
>> wouldn't be any need for control relocation. The best advice to
>> stormy is for him to tell his church he's incompetent and call a pro.
>I only suggested that he re-locate the srtats because it sounded like they
>weren't even in the zones that they controlled. As far as the actual heating
>requirements, that is part and parcel for the duct calcs... but then again,
>we are dealing with the mormon.
Well he did say he will go back to his church... someday.
Hopefully he will stay gone because he sounds like he's lost but
that's not unusual for him.
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Posted by HVAC on December 21, 2009, 8:29 am
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> Any ideas how to keep everyone comfortable? Windows open is
> a security problem because the teachers usually forget to
> reclose them.
Looks like god has a sense of humor.
He sent YOU to fix it!
BWAhahahahaha!
--
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many
people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion."
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on December 21, 2009, 9:37 am
So, how many weeks ago was this? I think the sense of humor
is that your dialup connection too six or seven weeks to
post your reply.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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> Any ideas how to keep everyone comfortable? Windows open
> is
> a security problem because the teachers usually forget to
> reclose them.
Looks like god has a sense of humor.
He sent YOU to fix it!
BWAhahahahaha!
--
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called
insanity. When many
people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion."
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>> walls, flat roof. The heat is natural gas, 80 percenters
>> (induced flue draft). The building has seven zones. Plus,
>> three offices have a mini split.
>> The problem is that three rooms are too hot. The primary
>> (kids class room) is in zone 6. Sometimes it's too cold, so
>> they push the thermostat to occupied. And much of the time
>> it's too hot, and so they open the windows.
>> The library with the copier is too hot. And a computer, both
>> of them throwing heat. I don't think they have a laminator,
>> or other heater. Could be in zone 5 or 4, not sure. If it's
>> zone 5, the thermostat is down the hall and around the
>> corner. If it's zone four, the thermostat is around the
>> other corner and down the other hall.
>> The nursery is probably in zone 4. They have two windows.
>> They typically open the windows to let the heat out.
>> Thermostat is around the corner in another room (the other
>> room has a copier right under the thermostat).
>> I havn't found any dampers, yet.
>> Any ideas how to keep everyone comfortable? Windows open is
>> a security problem because the teachers usually forget to
>> reclose them.
>Re-locate the controls, run a Manual D, and when you're re-doing the
>ductwork, consider adding zoning dampers with individual controls for each
>new zone.