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Posted by KJPRO on January 4, 2009, 1:31 am
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>I was talking with a mechanical engineer from Airco about the time
>>>>>>>>>Christian Brothers charged me $375 for 4.5 lbs of Freon.
>>>>>>>>> The guy from Airco said that HVAC service companies tell the techs
>>>>>>>>> to find
>>>>>>>>> a charge for over $300 or $400 no matter what they do to justify
>>>>>>>>> the time
>>>>>>>>> on the job. Christian Brothers charged me $455 for the service
>>>>>>>>> charge and
>>>>>>>>> the Freon.
>>>>>>>>> Olddog aka Homemoaner
>>>>>>>>Thats not too far off the mark. Even in rural south Mississippi I
>>>>>>>>get $363
>>>>>>>>for the service call and 4.5lbs of R-22
>>>>>>> How long is the service call.
>>>>>> Don't forget travel time.
>>>>> Well obviously grossly marking up Freon is common.
>>>>> http://www.koolit.net/prod_list.php?sci=3
>>>>> Christian Bros. has the right to charge what ever they want but I'm a
>>>>> potential long term customer that is going to need a new system very
>>>>> soon. Do you think it's a good idea to charge me that much?
>>>>> I'm in the city limits and Christian Bros. is local.
>>>>> Olddog
>>>> No! I think they should have done it for nothing!
>>>> This way they can go bankrupt and no longer give you quality service.
>>>> What in the hell are they thinking!?!?!
>>> Then everyone I've talked to (hvac professionals) with regards to the
>>> 1600% markup is crazy. It's just standard business practice?
>>> Interesting
>> It's interesting how you're trying to confuse facts with reality.
>> There's different ways to price products and services. No two companies
>> operate the same way. There's also the fact that MANY companies don't
>> price their service correctly and run themselves right out of business. A
>> fact that MANY people operate their business in different ways. Loss
>> leaders, selling equipment instead of making a repair, etc, etc...
>> You have to make money, period. Or you simply go under and are no longer
>> in business. That's a fact that you can't get around. Now there are
>> companies that subsidies their operations everyday. That doesn't mean
>> that the service you received was over priced. It just mean you didn't
>> find one and are now pissed that you paid $455 for a repair. I assume you
>> approved the repair? If it was so EXPENSIVE, why didn't you pay the
>> service call and get a second opinion?
>> If you want to take your little $455 repair as a complete lesson on how
>> to run a business, so be it. I on the other hand have the knowledge,
>> skills, experience and understanding that it takes to know how to run a
>> profitable company. But if you want a CHEAPER price on your next
>> repair/installation, I suggest you call GM/Ford/Chrysler... they will be
>> able to met your needs, at a price you can afford and make you feel all
>> warm and fuzzy inside. Then we can wait for the next Federal bailout plan
>> for the automotive industry.
>> Get a clue!
> heh
> In reality I paid $225. $65 service charge and the rest fo r-22.
> Olddog
Then you lied... simple as that!
Quote your first post
I was talking with a mechanical engineer from Airco about the time Christian
Brothers charged me $375 for 4.5 lbs of Freon.
The guy from Airco said that HVAC service companies tell the techs to find a
charge for over $300 or $400 no matter what they do to justify the time on
the job. Christian Brothers charged me $455 for the service charge and the
Freon.
Olddog aka Homemoaner
End quote
Quote another post
Then everyone I've talked to (hvac professionals) with regards to the 1600%
markup is crazy. It's just standard business practice?
Interesting
Thanks guys.
Olddog
End Quote
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One post you paid $375 for refrigerant.
Same post says you paid a total of $455 for service charge and refrigerant.
(375 + 80 = 455)
Then you get on a kick for having a 1600% markup on refrigerant.
Now you paid $65 for a service call, 225, plus refrigerant? (455-65-225 =
165 for refrigerant)
I know it must be hard for you, but try and keep YOUR facts straight.
Service fee is either 80 or 65, simple as that.
Refrigerant charge is either 375 or 165, simple as that.
For refrigerant to have a 1600% markup at 165/4.5 lbs it'd have to cost
2.29/lb.
Ill buy all you have for that price, as it's been more than that for quiet
some time now!
Even at 375/4.5 lbs it'd have a cost of 5.20/lb.
You're not facing reality by no means!
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Posted by olddog on January 4, 2009, 1:58 am
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>I was talking with a mechanical engineer from Airco about the time
>>>>>>>>>>Christian Brothers charged me $375 for 4.5 lbs of Freon.
>>>>>>>>>> The guy from Airco said that HVAC service companies tell the
>>>>>>>>>> techs to find
>>>>>>>>>> a charge for over $300 or $400 no matter what they do to justify
>>>>>>>>>> the time
>>>>>>>>>> on the job. Christian Brothers charged me $455 for the service
>>>>>>>>>> charge and
>>>>>>>>>> the Freon.
>>>>>>>>>> Olddog aka Homemoaner
>>>>>>>>>Thats not too far off the mark. Even in rural south Mississippi I
>>>>>>>>>get $363
>>>>>>>>>for the service call and 4.5lbs of R-22
>>>>>>>> How long is the service call.
>>>>>>> Don't forget travel time.
>>>>>> Well obviously grossly marking up Freon is common.
>>>>>> http://www.koolit.net/prod_list.php?sci=3
>>>>>> Christian Bros. has the right to charge what ever they want but I'm a
>>>>>> potential long term customer that is going to need a new system very
>>>>>> soon. Do you think it's a good idea to charge me that much?
>>>>>> I'm in the city limits and Christian Bros. is local.
>>>>>> Olddog
>>>>> No! I think they should have done it for nothing!
>>>>> This way they can go bankrupt and no longer give you quality service.
>>>>> What in the hell are they thinking!?!?!
>>>> Then everyone I've talked to (hvac professionals) with regards to the
>>>> 1600% markup is crazy. It's just standard business practice?
>>>> Interesting
>>> It's interesting how you're trying to confuse facts with reality.
>>> There's different ways to price products and services. No two companies
>>> operate the same way. There's also the fact that MANY companies don't
>>> price their service correctly and run themselves right out of business.
>>> A fact that MANY people operate their business in different ways. Loss
>>> leaders, selling equipment instead of making a repair, etc, etc...
>>> You have to make money, period. Or you simply go under and are no longer
>>> in business. That's a fact that you can't get around. Now there are
>>> companies that subsidies their operations everyday. That doesn't mean
>>> that the service you received was over priced. It just mean you didn't
>>> find one and are now pissed that you paid $455 for a repair. I assume
>>> you approved the repair? If it was so EXPENSIVE, why didn't you pay the
>>> service call and get a second opinion?
>>> If you want to take your little $455 repair as a complete lesson on how
>>> to run a business, so be it. I on the other hand have the knowledge,
>>> skills, experience and understanding that it takes to know how to run a
>>> profitable company. But if you want a CHEAPER price on your next
>>> repair/installation, I suggest you call GM/Ford/Chrysler... they will be
>>> able to met your needs, at a price you can afford and make you feel all
>>> warm and fuzzy inside. Then we can wait for the next Federal bailout
>>> plan for the automotive industry.
>>> Get a clue!
>> heh
>> In reality I paid $225. $65 service charge and the rest fo r-22.
>> Olddog
> Then you lied... simple as that!
> Quote your first post
> I was talking with a mechanical engineer from Airco about the time
> Christian
> Brothers charged me $375 for 4.5 lbs of Freon.
> The guy from Airco said that HVAC service companies tell the techs to find
> a
> charge for over $300 or $400 no matter what they do to justify the time on
> the job. Christian Brothers charged me $455 for the service charge and the
> Freon.
> Olddog aka Homemoaner
> End quote
> Quote another post
> Then everyone I've talked to (hvac professionals) with regards to the
> 1600%
> markup is crazy. It's just standard business practice?
> Interesting
> Thanks guys.
> Olddog
> End Quote
> ================
> One post you paid $375 for refrigerant.
> Same post says you paid a total of $455 for service charge and
> refrigerant. (375 + 80 = 455)
> Then you get on a kick for having a 1600% markup on refrigerant.
> Now you paid $65 for a service call, 225, plus refrigerant? (455-65-225 =
> 165 for refrigerant)
> I know it must be hard for you, but try and keep YOUR facts straight.
> Service fee is either 80 or 65, simple as that.
> Refrigerant charge is either 375 or 165, simple as that.
> For refrigerant to have a 1600% markup at 165/4.5 lbs it'd have to cost
> 2.29/lb.
> Ill buy all you have for that price, as it's been more than that for quiet
> some time now!
> Even at 375/4.5 lbs it'd have a cost of 5.20/lb.
> You're not facing reality by no means!
You'll get over it.
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Posted by Steve on January 4, 2009, 8:44 am
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>I was talking with a mechanical engineer from Airco about the
>>>>>>>>>>>time
>>>>>>>>>>>Christian Brothers charged me $375 for 4.5 lbs of Freon.
>>>>>>>>>>> The guy from Airco said that HVAC service companies tell the
>>>>>>>>>>> techs to find
>>>>>>>>>>> a charge for over $300 or $400 no matter what they do to justify
>>>>>>>>>>> the time
>>>>>>>>>>> on the job. Christian Brothers charged me $455 for the service
>>>>>>>>>>> charge and
>>>>>>>>>>> the Freon.
>>>>>>>>>>> Olddog aka Homemoaner
>>>>>>>>>>Thats not too far off the mark. Even in rural south Mississippi I
>>>>>>>>>>get $363
>>>>>>>>>>for the service call and 4.5lbs of R-22
>>>>>>>>> How long is the service call.
>>>>>>>> Don't forget travel time.
>>>>>>> Well obviously grossly marking up Freon is common.
>>>>>>> http://www.koolit.net/prod_list.php?sci=3
>>>>>>> Christian Bros. has the right to charge what ever they want but I'm
>>>>>>> a potential long term customer that is going to need a new system
>>>>>>> very soon. Do you think it's a good idea to charge me that much?
>>>>>>> I'm in the city limits and Christian Bros. is local.
>>>>>>> Olddog
>>>>>> No! I think they should have done it for nothing!
>>>>>> This way they can go bankrupt and no longer give you quality service.
>>>>>> What in the hell are they thinking!?!?!
>>>>> Then everyone I've talked to (hvac professionals) with regards to the
>>>>> 1600% markup is crazy. It's just standard business practice?
>>>>> Interesting
>>>> It's interesting how you're trying to confuse facts with reality.
>>>> There's different ways to price products and services. No two companies
>>>> operate the same way. There's also the fact that MANY companies don't
>>>> price their service correctly and run themselves right out of business.
>>>> A fact that MANY people operate their business in different ways. Loss
>>>> leaders, selling equipment instead of making a repair, etc, etc...
>>>> You have to make money, period. Or you simply go under and are no
>>>> longer in business. That's a fact that you can't get around. Now there
>>>> are companies that subsidies their operations everyday. That doesn't
>>>> mean that the service you received was over priced. It just mean you
>>>> didn't find one and are now pissed that you paid $455 for a repair. I
>>>> assume you approved the repair? If it was so EXPENSIVE, why didn't you
>>>> pay the service call and get a second opinion?
>>>> If you want to take your little $455 repair as a complete lesson on how
>>>> to run a business, so be it. I on the other hand have the knowledge,
>>>> skills, experience and understanding that it takes to know how to run a
>>>> profitable company. But if you want a CHEAPER price on your next
>>>> repair/installation, I suggest you call GM/Ford/Chrysler... they will
>>>> be able to met your needs, at a price you can afford and make you feel
>>>> all warm and fuzzy inside. Then we can wait for the next Federal
>>>> bailout plan for the automotive industry.
>>>> Get a clue!
>>> heh
>>> In reality I paid $225. $65 service charge and the rest fo r-22.
>>> Olddog
>> Then you lied... simple as that!
>> Quote your first post
>> I was talking with a mechanical engineer from Airco about the time
>> Christian
>> Brothers charged me $375 for 4.5 lbs of Freon.
>> The guy from Airco said that HVAC service companies tell the techs to
>> find a
>> charge for over $300 or $400 no matter what they do to justify the time
>> on
>> the job. Christian Brothers charged me $455 for the service charge and
>> the
>> Freon.
>> Olddog aka Homemoaner
>> End quote
>> Quote another post
>> Then everyone I've talked to (hvac professionals) with regards to the
>> 1600%
>> markup is crazy. It's just standard business practice?
>> Interesting
>> Thanks guys.
>> Olddog
>> End Quote
>> ================
>> One post you paid $375 for refrigerant.
>> Same post says you paid a total of $455 for service charge and
>> refrigerant. (375 + 80 = 455)
>> Then you get on a kick for having a 1600% markup on refrigerant.
>> Now you paid $65 for a service call, 225, plus refrigerant? (455-65-225 =
>> 165 for refrigerant)
>> I know it must be hard for you, but try and keep YOUR facts straight.
>> Service fee is either 80 or 65, simple as that.
>> Refrigerant charge is either 375 or 165, simple as that.
>> For refrigerant to have a 1600% markup at 165/4.5 lbs it'd have to cost
>> 2.29/lb.
>> Ill buy all you have for that price, as it's been more than that for
>> quiet some time now!
>> Even at 375/4.5 lbs it'd have a cost of 5.20/lb.
>> You're not facing reality by no means!
> You'll get over it.
So will you
*click*
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Posted by KJPRO on January 4, 2009, 1:12 pm
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>I was talking with a mechanical engineer from Airco about the
>>>>>>>>>>>time
>>>>>>>>>>>Christian Brothers charged me $375 for 4.5 lbs of Freon.
>>>>>>>>>>> The guy from Airco said that HVAC service companies tell the
>>>>>>>>>>> techs to find
>>>>>>>>>>> a charge for over $300 or $400 no matter what they do to justify
>>>>>>>>>>> the time
>>>>>>>>>>> on the job. Christian Brothers charged me $455 for the service
>>>>>>>>>>> charge and
>>>>>>>>>>> the Freon.
>>>>>>>>>>> Olddog aka Homemoaner
>>>>>>>>>>Thats not too far off the mark. Even in rural south Mississippi I
>>>>>>>>>>get $363
>>>>>>>>>>for the service call and 4.5lbs of R-22
>>>>>>>>> How long is the service call.
>>>>>>>> Don't forget travel time.
>>>>>>> Well obviously grossly marking up Freon is common.
>>>>>>> http://www.koolit.net/prod_list.php?sci=3
>>>>>>> Christian Bros. has the right to charge what ever they want but I'm
>>>>>>> a potential long term customer that is going to need a new system
>>>>>>> very soon. Do you think it's a good idea to charge me that much?
>>>>>>> I'm in the city limits and Christian Bros. is local.
>>>>>>> Olddog
>>>>>> No! I think they should have done it for nothing!
>>>>>> This way they can go bankrupt and no longer give you quality service.
>>>>>> What in the hell are they thinking!?!?!
>>>>> Then everyone I've talked to (hvac professionals) with regards to the
>>>>> 1600% markup is crazy. It's just standard business practice?
>>>>> Interesting
>>>> It's interesting how you're trying to confuse facts with reality.
>>>> There's different ways to price products and services. No two companies
>>>> operate the same way. There's also the fact that MANY companies don't
>>>> price their service correctly and run themselves right out of business.
>>>> A fact that MANY people operate their business in different ways. Loss
>>>> leaders, selling equipment instead of making a repair, etc, etc...
>>>> You have to make money, period. Or you simply go under and are no
>>>> longer in business. That's a fact that you can't get around. Now there
>>>> are companies that subsidies their operations everyday. That doesn't
>>>> mean that the service you received was over priced. It just mean you
>>>> didn't find one and are now pissed that you paid $455 for a repair. I
>>>> assume you approved the repair? If it was so EXPENSIVE, why didn't you
>>>> pay the service call and get a second opinion?
>>>> If you want to take your little $455 repair as a complete lesson on how
>>>> to run a business, so be it. I on the other hand have the knowledge,
>>>> skills, experience and understanding that it takes to know how to run a
>>>> profitable company. But if you want a CHEAPER price on your next
>>>> repair/installation, I suggest you call GM/Ford/Chrysler... they will
>>>> be able to met your needs, at a price you can afford and make you feel
>>>> all warm and fuzzy inside. Then we can wait for the next Federal
>>>> bailout plan for the automotive industry.
>>>> Get a clue!
>>> heh
>>> In reality I paid $225. $65 service charge and the rest fo r-22.
>>> Olddog
>> Then you lied... simple as that!
>> Quote your first post
>> I was talking with a mechanical engineer from Airco about the time
>> Christian
>> Brothers charged me $375 for 4.5 lbs of Freon.
>> The guy from Airco said that HVAC service companies tell the techs to
>> find a
>> charge for over $300 or $400 no matter what they do to justify the time
>> on
>> the job. Christian Brothers charged me $455 for the service charge and
>> the
>> Freon.
>> Olddog aka Homemoaner
>> End quote
>> Quote another post
>> Then everyone I've talked to (hvac professionals) with regards to the
>> 1600%
>> markup is crazy. It's just standard business practice?
>> Interesting
>> Thanks guys.
>> Olddog
>> End Quote
>> ================
>> One post you paid $375 for refrigerant.
>> Same post says you paid a total of $455 for service charge and
>> refrigerant. (375 + 80 = 455)
>> Then you get on a kick for having a 1600% markup on refrigerant.
>> Now you paid $65 for a service call, 225, plus refrigerant? (455-65-225 =
>> 165 for refrigerant)
>> I know it must be hard for you, but try and keep YOUR facts straight.
>> Service fee is either 80 or 65, simple as that.
>> Refrigerant charge is either 375 or 165, simple as that.
>> For refrigerant to have a 1600% markup at 165/4.5 lbs it'd have to cost
>> 2.29/lb.
>> Ill buy all you have for that price, as it's been more than that for
>> quiet some time now!
>> Even at 375/4.5 lbs it'd have a cost of 5.20/lb.
>> You're not facing reality by no means!
> You'll get over it.
Just more proof that you're an Asshole.
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Posted by Steve on January 4, 2009, 2:06 pm
>>> You're not facing reality by no means!
>> You'll get over it.
> Just more proof that you're an Asshole.
Wait a while.... by summer of 2010, the price of R22 is gonna be $150/lb
then he'll look back and wonder how he got by so cheap.
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>>>>>>>>>I was talking with a mechanical engineer from Airco about the time
>>>>>>>>>Christian Brothers charged me $375 for 4.5 lbs of Freon.
>>>>>>>>> The guy from Airco said that HVAC service companies tell the techs
>>>>>>>>> to find
>>>>>>>>> a charge for over $300 or $400 no matter what they do to justify
>>>>>>>>> the time
>>>>>>>>> on the job. Christian Brothers charged me $455 for the service
>>>>>>>>> charge and
>>>>>>>>> the Freon.
>>>>>>>>> Olddog aka Homemoaner
>>>>>>>>Thats not too far off the mark. Even in rural south Mississippi I
>>>>>>>>get $363
>>>>>>>>for the service call and 4.5lbs of R-22
>>>>>>> How long is the service call.
>>>>>> Don't forget travel time.
>>>>> Well obviously grossly marking up Freon is common.
>>>>> http://www.koolit.net/prod_list.php?sci=3
>>>>> Christian Bros. has the right to charge what ever they want but I'm a
>>>>> potential long term customer that is going to need a new system very
>>>>> soon. Do you think it's a good idea to charge me that much?
>>>>> I'm in the city limits and Christian Bros. is local.
>>>>> Olddog
>>>> No! I think they should have done it for nothing!
>>>> This way they can go bankrupt and no longer give you quality service.
>>>> What in the hell are they thinking!?!?!
>>> Then everyone I've talked to (hvac professionals) with regards to the
>>> 1600% markup is crazy. It's just standard business practice?
>>> Interesting