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Posted by Pat Coghlan on July 7, 2007, 12:51 pm
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I think the problem is that you can't answer a simple question, which
is, should I connect R and C to the block, or the terminal strip? Both
have screws to accept wire connections.
There's a level of confidence one gets after they've done something once
or twice (successfully). It's a bit unnerving not having the display
light up, and I can see that there's no return to the common side of the
transformer, so perhaps if I hook up the black wire to C I'll be in
business - at which point I'll probably have a question re: how to adapt
the multi-stage operation to a single-stage furnace.
Thinking about it, though, I guess W-R has tapped off C and R to the
block to power off-board devices.
I work with electronic technicians all day long (alarm systems), but
when I asked one of the senior guys if he knew anything about
heating/cooling systems his answer was "my furnace has a red wire and a
white wire".
Questions from someone not "in the biz", may seem dumb, but you've
probably heard that there's no such thing as a dumb question, only...
Noon-Air wrote:
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> Its not rocket science, almost anybody can do it (except you)LOL
> A degree doesn't mean that you can walk and chew bubble gum at the
> same time.
> If you have a degree in computer science, you should be able to handle
> a simple wiring diagram, and hooking up 5 different colored wires.
> Whats the worse that can happen..... let the factory smoke out of a
> component?? blow a fuse?? make the heat and A/C come on at the same
> time??
> The link you posted shows exactly where to hook up the wires, and you
> can't figure it out..... I guess your degree doesn't apply to simple
> wiring??
> Call a local tech.
>
> I think I can handle the programming (have a degree in computer
> science).
> It's the hot/common connections that I'm not sure about. The R/C
> terminals already have wires inserted and these wires go over to a
> block...which also has screw terminals.
> Do I wire directly to the terminals (which have a metal flange
> partially covering them, as if to prevent you from using them) or
> to the block(s)?
> The directions don't say ANYTHING about the on-board wires, other
> than don't remove them.
> -Pat
> Noon-Air wrote:
>>
>> wrote in message
>> Okay, so how does one handle the R/C terminal connections
>> (which go to a block)?
>> Duh maybe if you read the freakin directions??? For that stat
>> you need 5 wires for 1h/1c. Yes you have to make 5
>> connections to make it work, *AFTER* you have it programmed
>> correctly.
>>
>> Want me to lead you by the hand in wiring and programming??
>> Let me know when you have made a deposit to my PayPal account.
>>
>>
>> Noon-Air wrote:
>>>
>>> wrote in message
>>> I have White-Rogers 1F95-371 multi-stage thermostat that
>>> I'd like to try and use with my plain vanilla
>>> residential furnace (Lennox).
>>> Problem:
>>> its a Lummox with a WR stat
>>> - I only need it to control heat (W), fan (G) and AC (Y)
>>> - The R and C terminals on the unit have red and black
>>> wires (respectively) soldered to a block which has 3
>>> terminals on it
>>> (see
http://www.white-rodgers.com/wrdhom/pdfs/06_Cat_pages/Cat_06_pg0161.pdf)
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>>> - If I connect W/G/Y plus the R wire, the display does
>>> not light up - presumably because it needs a full-time
>>> connection to T (transformer common)
>>> Has anyone wired up one of these successfully and can I
>>> adapt it to my single-stage furnace?
>>> Yup, lots of times
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<font face="Verdana">I think the problem is that you can't answer a
simple question, which is, should I connect R and C to the block, or
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the terminal strip? Both have screws to accept wire connections.<br>
<br>
There's a level of confidence one gets after they've done something
once or twice (successfully). It's a bit unnerving not having the
display light up, and I can see that there's no return to the common
side of the transformer, so perhaps if I hook up the black wire to C
I'll be in business - at which point I'll probably have a question re:
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how to adapt the multi-stage operation to a single-stage furnace.<br>
<br>
Thinking about it, though, I guess W-R has tapped off C and R to the
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block to power off-board devices.<br>
<br>
I work with electronic technicians all day long (alarm systems), but
when I asked one of the senior guys if he knew anything about
heating/cooling systems his answer was "my furnace has a red wire and a
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white wire".<br>
<br>
Questions from someone not "in the biz", may seem dumb, but you've
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probably heard that there's no such thing as a dumb question, only...<br>
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Noon-Air wrote:
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science, you should be able to handle a simple wiring diagram, and
hooking up 5 different colored wires. Whats the worse that can
happen..... let the factory smoke out of a component?? blow a fuse??
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where to hook up the wires, and you can't figure it out..... I guess
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<font face="Verdana">I think I can handle the programming (have a
degree in computer science).<br>
<br>
It's the hot/common connections that I'm not sure about. The R/C
terminals already have wires inserted and these wires go over to a
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block...which also has screw terminals.<br>
<br>
Do I wire directly to the terminals (which have a metal flange
partially covering them, as if to prevent you from using them) or to
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the block(s)?<br>
<br>
The directions don't say ANYTHING about the on-board wires, other than
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don't remove them.<br>
<br>
-Pat<br>
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Noon-Air wrote:
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read the freakin directions??? For that stat you need 5 wires for
1h/1c. Yes you have to make 5 connections to make it work, *AFTER* you
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lead you by the hand in wiring and programming?? Let me know when you
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<blockquote
style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left:
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1F95-371 multi-stage thermostat that I'd like to try and use with my
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plain vanilla residential furnace (Lennox).<br>
<br>
Problem:<br>
<font color="#ff0000" face="Arial" size="2">its a Lummox
with a WR stat</font><br>
- I only need it to control heat (W), fan (G) and AC (Y)<br>
- The R and C terminals on the unit have red and black wires
(respectively) soldered to a block which has 3 terminals on it (see <font
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face="Verdana"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.white-rodgers.com/wrdhom/pdfs/06_Cat_pages/Cat_06_pg0161.pdf"
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moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.white-rodgers.com/wrdhom/pdfs/06_Cat_pages/Cat_06_pg0161.pdf)</a><br>
- If I connect W/G/Y plus the R wire, the display does not light up -
presumably because it needs a full-time connection to T (transformer
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common)<br>
<br>
Has anyone wired up one of these successfully and can I adapt it to my
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> A degree doesn't mean that you can walk and chew bubble gum at the
> same time.
> If you have a degree in computer science, you should be able to handle
> a simple wiring diagram, and hooking up 5 different colored wires.
> Whats the worse that can happen..... let the factory smoke out of a
> component?? blow a fuse?? make the heat and A/C come on at the same
> time??
> The link you posted shows exactly where to hook up the wires, and you
> can't figure it out..... I guess your degree doesn't apply to simple
> wiring??
> Call a local tech.
>
> I think I can handle the programming (have a degree in computer
> science).
> It's the hot/common connections that I'm not sure about. The R/C
> terminals already have wires inserted and these wires go over to a
> block...which also has screw terminals.
> Do I wire directly to the terminals (which have a metal flange
> partially covering them, as if to prevent you from using them) or
> to the block(s)?
> The directions don't say ANYTHING about the on-board wires, other
> than don't remove them.
> -Pat
> Noon-Air wrote:
>>
>> wrote in message
>> Okay, so how does one handle the R/C terminal connections
>> (which go to a block)?
>> Duh maybe if you read the freakin directions??? For that stat
>> you need 5 wires for 1h/1c. Yes you have to make 5
>> connections to make it work, *AFTER* you have it programmed
>> correctly.
>>
>> Want me to lead you by the hand in wiring and programming??
>> Let me know when you have made a deposit to my PayPal account.
>>
>>
>> Noon-Air wrote:
>>>
>>> wrote in message
>>> I have White-Rogers 1F95-371 multi-stage thermostat that
>>> I'd like to try and use with my plain vanilla
>>> residential furnace (Lennox).
>>> Problem:
>>> its a Lummox with a WR stat
>>> - I only need it to control heat (W), fan (G) and AC (Y)
>>> - The R and C terminals on the unit have red and black
>>> wires (respectively) soldered to a block which has 3
>>> terminals on it
>>> (see