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Posted by Stormin Mormon on January 21, 2009, 11:08 pm
When I used to do installs, once in a while, the boss would
ask us to take a furnace out neat and tidy. He knows some
landlords who can use furnace in good condition. I'm very
pleased you put the "trouble unit" to good use.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


wrote:

>Don't want any help or advice.
>Just would like an opinion or two based on your field
>experience relative to the following;
>Got 3 yr. old Gas fired Trane with a Western Digital board
>and a WD Silicon Nitride Igniter. No heat problem-Service
>Tech quickly and correctly diagnosed a failed Igniter.
>I've read that the typical life of an Igniter is about 3-5
>yrs but you can get at least 3 plus additional years with
>the Silicon Nitride type. So, did the one installed in my
>furnace fail prematurely (non typical-infant mortality) or
>is the longer life a bit exaggerated and just more hype to
>justify the higher cost? (Have a Service/Manteca contract
>so cost is not a factor for me)
>Also, does the practice of lowering the temperature at
>night and then resetting it in the morning (ala
>programmable thermostat) in time, actually have a negative
>impact on the furnace hot section components? That is,
>because of the long(er) time components are exposed to the
>full blast of the furnace (as the house is brought back up
>to the new set temperature) their useful life can be
>reduced.
>MLD

I've seen them last anywhere from a year to ten years. The
one in my
furnace is going on six years without replacement. Someone
had wrote
with a sharpie the date that it was last changed.

Interesting story about how I got my York Stellar 90 plus.

Went on a furnace change out and when I looked at the one to
be
replaced I went to the owner and told her I can fix this
furnace for
about a dollar. It looked brand new. She declined saying
that she
had had enough of the POS as it always gave her trouble.
Called the
salesman told him the same thing. Nope she wants a new
furnace.
Called my boss told him the same thing. Nope she wants a
new furnace.
Okey dokie I says and I proceeded with the install. Went to
start up
the new one and it would not fire. Checked it out and the
pressure
switch wouldn't make. Went outside and heard gurgling in
the vent
pipe. Went back downstairs and checked out the venting.
Turns out I
over bid the repair cost as some jack ass non union hack
strapped the
exhaust vent up with panduit strap and created a big dip in
the pipe
which when the furnace ran hard on cold day water trapped in
the dip
and it shut off on the pressure switch. I took my snips and
cut the
strap and about a gallon of water drains out and the new one
fired
right up. She's had zero problems since. Hauling the old
one out she
asked me if I was going to recycle the old furnace. I said
yes I am
and thought to myself, I'm going to recycle it right into my
home
since it was the perfect size and the price was right.
Free. So far
between the furnace and a additional 14" of blown insulation
I added
to the attic I've save two tanks of propane a year. A
hearty thank
you to the non union hack who didn't know his ass from a
fire truck.
Its been 3 years now and I haven't had a lick of trouble out
of it.

True story.



Posted by Steve on January 22, 2009, 8:36 am
The laws here prevent me from installing any used fosil fuel appliance.

> When I used to do installs, once in a while, the boss would
> ask us to take a furnace out neat and tidy. He knows some
> landlords who can use furnace in good condition. I'm very
> pleased you put the "trouble unit" to good use.
> --
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
> .
> wrote:
>>Don't want any help or advice.
>>Just would like an opinion or two based on your field
>>experience relative to the following;
>>Got 3 yr. old Gas fired Trane with a Western Digital board
>>and a WD Silicon Nitride Igniter. No heat problem-Service
>>Tech quickly and correctly diagnosed a failed Igniter.
>>I've read that the typical life of an Igniter is about 3-5
>>yrs but you can get at least 3 plus additional years with
>>the Silicon Nitride type. So, did the one installed in my
>>furnace fail prematurely (non typical-infant mortality) or
>>is the longer life a bit exaggerated and just more hype to
>>justify the higher cost? (Have a Service/Manteca contract
>>so cost is not a factor for me)
>>Also, does the practice of lowering the temperature at
>>night and then resetting it in the morning (ala
>>programmable thermostat) in time, actually have a negative
>>impact on the furnace hot section components? That is,
>>because of the long(er) time components are exposed to the
>>full blast of the furnace (as the house is brought back up
>>to the new set temperature) their useful life can be
>>reduced.
>>MLD
> I've seen them last anywhere from a year to ten years. The
> one in my
> furnace is going on six years without replacement. Someone
> had wrote
> with a sharpie the date that it was last changed.
> Interesting story about how I got my York Stellar 90 plus.
> Went on a furnace change out and when I looked at the one to
> be
> replaced I went to the owner and told her I can fix this
> furnace for
> about a dollar. It looked brand new. She declined saying
> that she
> had had enough of the POS as it always gave her trouble.
> Called the
> salesman told him the same thing. Nope she wants a new
> furnace.
> Called my boss told him the same thing. Nope she wants a
> new furnace.
> Okey dokie I says and I proceeded with the install. Went to
> start up
> the new one and it would not fire. Checked it out and the
> pressure
> switch wouldn't make. Went outside and heard gurgling in
> the vent
> pipe. Went back downstairs and checked out the venting.
> Turns out I
> over bid the repair cost as some jack ass non union hack
> strapped the
> exhaust vent up with panduit strap and created a big dip in
> the pipe
> which when the furnace ran hard on cold day water trapped in
> the dip
> and it shut off on the pressure switch. I took my snips and
> cut the
> strap and about a gallon of water drains out and the new one
> fired
> right up. She's had zero problems since. Hauling the old
> one out she
> asked me if I was going to recycle the old furnace. I said
> yes I am
> and thought to myself, I'm going to recycle it right into my
> home
> since it was the perfect size and the price was right.
> Free. So far
> between the furnace and a additional 14" of blown insulation
> I added
> to the attic I've save two tanks of propane a year. A
> hearty thank
> you to the non union hack who didn't know his ass from a
> fire truck.
> Its been 3 years now and I haven't had a lick of trouble out
> of it.
> True story.
>



Posted by Bipolar Bear on January 22, 2009, 12:25 pm


> The laws here prevent me from installing any used fosil fuel appliance.

Sounds a bit far fetched would appreciate a reference to the relevant code.

--





Posted by The King on January 22, 2009, 4:46 pm
wrote:

>> The laws here prevent me from installing any used fosil fuel appliance.
>Sounds a bit far fetched would appreciate a reference to the relevant code.

The same here but it can be done if the inspector signs off on it.

Posted by Bipolar Bear on January 23, 2009, 1:40 am

> wrote:
> >> The laws here prevent me from installing any used fosil fuel appliance.
> >Sounds a bit far fetched would appreciate a reference to the relevant
code.
> The same here but it can be done if the inspector signs off on it.

Quite a few routinely advertise on craigslist in my area offering used as
well as installation of said used. ( permits may be required )

Furnaces gas and oil..

Steve's statement ( any used fossil fuel appliance ) taken literally I would
also conclude to mean to ranges and ovens as well as water heaters, mostly
curious to see how any such code exclusion would be written and parsed so as
to preclude having tons of grey area and loophole as to legal interpretation

For instance, USED refrigerant is perfectly okay to recycle store and
re-install into the original owner's equipment--just that ownership cannot
be transferred.

IOW, not so much that I am seriously doubting that certain restrictions
apply in some areas--mostly just I'm curious to see the code wording if
/when/where such restrictions have actually been implemented into law.

--









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