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Internet Retailers... and the guy "STEVE" Boyd 10-05-2008
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Posted by on October 22, 2008, 6:46 pm
wrote:

>OK, so I checked the Manufacturer sites as you suggested and it looks
>like you are giving only HALF the story. Here is a CUT & PASTE from
>RUUD's site:
>Q: What happens if I purchase Ruud equipment from an online sales company?
>A: Ruud published warranties are not applicable for any equipment
>manufactured by Ruud that has been sold direct to the consumer via the
>internet or auction websites
>without an in-person site visit, inspection, and installation by a
>qualified, trained HVAC professional.
>So I called Rheem and they told me that Alpine Home Air, AC Direct and
>AC Overstock are all run by LICENSED CONTRACTORS who require the home
>owner to contact a local installer to do the work or through their
>nationwide database the internet contractor will help teh consumer find
>an licensed installer. AC Direct has beenin business 7 years and
>offers FULL tech support and RUUD Often visit them in Orlando FL for
>dinner and meeting once a year.
>So it looks like there are a few sites out there who are APPROVED. And
>I called them and they know their stuff. Do companies like thi sbother
>you because they are taking money off your table?
>So are you saying internet sites cater ONLY to Do It Yourselfers? What
>about someone who HAS a contractor and simplty wants to avoid teh
>CONTRACTORS Markup? What the HELL is wrong with me buying a Ruud
>System for $3000 and hiring my own contractor to install it for
>$1500??? Instead of the contractor earning his labor $1500 for an
>afternoon or 2 afternoons PLUS an additional $1500 on teh system??? So
>instead of $6000 for a system and installation, it costs Johnny
>Homeowner $4500. You have a problem with that?
>>
>>> Hell man, there's tons of internet retailers on the net selling top
>>> name brands. Steve is full of BUNK man. There aint no "void
>>> warranties buying on the internet! You crazy man...just crazy.
>>
>> Sorry, I am only a certified master tech and contractor that has been
>> business for 12 years. I only do 5 - 7 semester hours of continuing
>> education every year to stay up on the latest technologies and
>> equipment.... this includes things like changes in factory warranty
>> policies too. FWIW, with every 14SEER or higher system that I sell and
>> install, I include a 10 year extended parts *AND* labor warranty....
>> but thats one of the benifits of a *PAYING* customer. I also back up
>> everything that I tell my customers in black and white, and then *SHOW*
>> them any and all problems that will be corrected when the new system is
>> installed. I can scan and e-mail you a copy of the warranty sheets for
>> Rheem/RUUD that specifically states that home owners buying equipment
>> over the internet has no warranty..... or if you want to research it
>> yourself, go to the manufacturers web sites and do your own damn
>> homework instead of trying to pull stuff out of your ass.
>>
>> Now...take your sorry ass back to alt.home.repair

Go fuck yourself jonn boy.

Posted by Noon-Air on October 22, 2008, 7:19 pm

> wrote:
>>OK, so I checked the Manufacturer sites as you suggested and it looks
>>like you are giving only HALF the story. Here is a CUT & PASTE from
>>RUUD's site:
>>Q: What happens if I purchase Ruud equipment from an online sales
>>company?
>>A: Ruud published warranties are not applicable for any equipment
>>manufactured by Ruud that has been sold direct to the consumer via the
>>internet or auction websites
>>without an in-person site visit, inspection, and installation by a
>>qualified, trained HVAC professional.
>>So I called Rheem and they told me that Alpine Home Air, AC Direct and
>>AC Overstock are all run by LICENSED CONTRACTORS who require the home
>>owner to contact a local installer to do the work or through their
>>nationwide database the internet contractor will help teh consumer find
>>an licensed installer. AC Direct has beenin business 7 years and
>>offers FULL tech support and RUUD Often visit them in Orlando FL for
>>dinner and meeting once a year.
>>So it looks like there are a few sites out there who are APPROVED. And
>>I called them and they know their stuff. Do companies like thi sbother
>>you because they are taking money off your table?
>>So are you saying internet sites cater ONLY to Do It Yourselfers? What
>>about someone who HAS a contractor and simplty wants to avoid teh
>>CONTRACTORS Markup? What the HELL is wrong with me buying a Ruud
>>System for $3000 and hiring my own contractor to install it for
>>$1500??? Instead of the contractor earning his labor $1500 for an
>>afternoon or 2 afternoons PLUS an additional $1500 on teh system??? So
>>instead of $6000 for a system and installation, it costs Johnny
>>Homeowner $4500. You have a problem with that?
>>>> Hell man, there's tons of internet retailers on the net selling top
>>>> name brands. Steve is full of BUNK man. There aint no "void
>>>> warranties buying on the internet! You crazy man...just crazy.
>>> Sorry, I am only a certified master tech and contractor that has been
>>> business for 12 years. I only do 5 - 7 semester hours of continuing
>>> education every year to stay up on the latest technologies and
>>> equipment.... this includes things like changes in factory warranty
>>> policies too. FWIW, with every 14SEER or higher system that I sell and
>>> install, I include a 10 year extended parts *AND* labor warranty....
>>> but thats one of the benifits of a *PAYING* customer. I also back up
>>> everything that I tell my customers in black and white, and then *SHOW*
>>> them any and all problems that will be corrected when the new system is
>>> installed. I can scan and e-mail you a copy of the warranty sheets for
>>> Rheem/RUUD that specifically states that home owners buying equipment
>>> over the internet has no warranty..... or if you want to research it
>>> yourself, go to the manufacturers web sites and do your own damn
>>> homework instead of trying to pull stuff out of your ass.
>>> Now...take your sorry ass back to alt.home.repair
> Go fuck yourself jonn boy.

Mike,
There are lots of folks out there like him... looking for the lowest prices.
I have been getting a bunch of calls now that folks are trying to use their
furnaces and they don't work. One I went out to today was electric heat...
had to re-wire the whole damn thing before I could even troubleshoot it to
find out what was wrong because the owner had called Billy-Joe-Jim-Bob 6
times to the tune of over a grand, and it still didn't work. They have been
without since July because they wasted their money on the local side job
hack. My total bill even with having to re-wire the thing is a little less
than half of that, and it works the way its supposed to, with a 90day
warranty(its in a trailer or it would get a 1 year warranty).
John Boi will be calling one of us or another competent, licensed, insured,
professionally trained HVAC technician to fix all the screw ups.


Posted by DIMwit on October 5, 2008, 12:48 pm


http://www.rheemac.com/main_about_Internet.shtml
> Hell man, there's tons of internet retailers on the net selling top name
> brands. Steve is full of BUNK man. There aint no "void warranties buying
> on the internet! You crazy man...just crazy.



Posted by Don Ocean on October 6, 2008, 12:41 am


DIMwit wrote:
> http://www.rheemac.com/main_about_Internet.shtml
>> Hell man, there's tons of internet retailers on the net selling top name
>> brands. Steve is full of BUNK man. There aint no "void warranties buying
>> on the internet! You crazy man...just crazy.
>
>


Welllllll! Speak up boy. Cat got your tongue? We know your there. Wiggle
your ears or something. ;-p

Posted by Don Ocean on October 6, 2008, 12:38 am


Boyd wrote:
> Hell man, there's tons of internet retailers on the net selling top name
> brands. Steve is full of BUNK man. There aint no "void warranties
> buying on the internet! You crazy man...just crazy.


Heh! heh! You have had your day in our court and have been found guilty
of Bullshit. Now go away and annoy your neighbors.

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