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Posted by Mike Schumann on June 26, 2007, 1:10 am
Last week, we arrived at our South FL home and discovered that our A/C was
not working (~20 year old 4 ton Janitrol). I called my A/C guy, who was
booked solid 10 days out.
In desperation, I decided to try to fix the unit myself. The condensor fan
was not running. The compressor was running and sounded scary.
I replaced the condensor fan and the capacitor. Everything seemed to be
working fine, with the unit putting out lots of cold air and sounding
normal. I was concerned that the system might have had some damage during
the week or so it was running (not continuously) with the inop fan motor.
I kept my appointment with my A/C guy for the end of the week to have him
check everything out.
Today, the system quit working. The condensor fan was still running, but it
appeared that the compressor was not running. I turned the system off for
an hour or so. When I turned it on again, everything worked fine for about
4-5 hours, at which point the compressor again quit running. I tried
turning the system off an on again, with no results.
I know that the right answer is to replace the system. However, I'm want
air NOW, not next week. A couple of questions:
1. Is the compressor toast? Any chance there is a relatively easy fix?
2. What should a replacement system cost?
3. When I replace the unit, should I also replace the air handler?
4. Should I go with a new R-22 or R410A system?
5. Any suggestions on brand of unit (+ or -)
Thanks,
--
Mike Schumann
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Posted by on June 26, 2007, 2:35 am
> Last week, we arrived at our South FL home and discovered that our A/C was
> not working (~20 year old 4 ton Janitrol). I called my A/C guy, who was
> booked solid 10 days out.
>
> In desperation, I decided to try to fix the unit myself. The condensor
fan
> was not running. The compressor was running and sounded scary.
>
> I replaced the condensor fan and the capacitor. Everything seemed to be
> working fine, with the unit putting out lots of cold air and sounding
> normal. I was concerned that the system might have had some damage during
> the week or so it was running (not continuously) with the inop fan motor.
>
> I kept my appointment with my A/C guy for the end of the week to have him
> check everything out.
>
> Today, the system quit working. The condensor fan was still running, but
it
> appeared that the compressor was not running. I turned the system off for
> an hour or so. When I turned it on again, everything worked fine for
about
> 4-5 hours, at which point the compressor again quit running. I tried
> turning the system off an on again, with no results.
>
> I know that the right answer is to replace the system. However, I'm want
> air NOW, not next week. A couple of questions:
>
> 1. (part 1) Is the compressor toast?
Could be, hard to get operational data over the net.
> 1. (part 2) Any chance there is a relatively easy fix?
Simple or major... till the data is collected, anything is just a guess.
> 2. What should a replacement system cost?
5 - 10 grand.
> 3. When I replace the unit, should I also replace the air handler?
Yes, and possibly some ducting upgrades.
> 4. Should I go with a new R-22 or R410A system?
R-22
> 5. Any suggestions on brand of unit (+ or -)
Any brand that is sized, installed and set-up to operate within the
manufacture's specifications.
> Thanks,
> --
> Mike Schumann
>
>
>
> --
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Posted by Moe Jones on June 26, 2007, 7:13 am
: quoted-printable
What ever you do, replace the condensing unit or the compressor, have =
your technician install safeties controls on your system to shut it down =
if you have another problem.
--=20
Moe Jones
HVAC Service Technician
Energy Equalizers Inc.
Houston, Texas=20
www.EnergyEqualizers.com
Last week, we arrived at our South FL home and discovered that our A/C =
was=20
not working (~20 year old 4 ton Janitrol). I called my A/C guy, who =
was=20
booked solid 10 days out.
In desperation, I decided to try to fix the unit myself. The =
condensor fan=20
was not running. The compressor was running and sounded scary.
I replaced the condensor fan and the capacitor. Everything seemed to =
be=20
working fine, with the unit putting out lots of cold air and sounding=20
normal. I was concerned that the system might have had some damage =
during=20
the week or so it was running (not continuously) with the inop fan =
motor.
I kept my appointment with my A/C guy for the end of the week to have =
him=20
check everything out.
Today, the system quit working. The condensor fan was still running, =
but it=20
appeared that the compressor was not running. I turned the system off =
for=20
an hour or so. When I turned it on again, everything worked fine for =
about=20
4-5 hours, at which point the compressor again quit running. I tried=20
turning the system off an on again, with no results.
I know that the right answer is to replace the system. However, I'm =
want=20
air NOW, not next week. A couple of questions:
1. Is the compressor toast? Any chance there is a relatively easy =
fix?
2. What should a replacement system cost?
3. When I replace the unit, should I also replace the air handler?
4. Should I go with a new R-22 or R410A system?
5. Any suggestions on brand of unit (+ or -)
Thanks,
--=20
Mike Schumann=20
--=20
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shut it down if you have another problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Moe Jones<BR>HVAC Service Technician<BR>Energy =
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Inc.<BR>Houston, Texas <BR><A=20
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<DIV>"Mike Schumann" <<A=20
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wrote in message <A=20
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$16350$88260bb3@free.teranews.com</A>...</DIV>Last=20
week, we arrived at our South FL home and discovered that our A/C was =
<BR>not=20
working (~20 year old 4 ton Janitrol). I called my A/C guy, who =
was=20
<BR>booked solid 10 days out.<BR><BR>In desperation, I decided to try =
to fix=20
the unit myself. The condensor fan <BR>was not running. =
The=20
compressor was running and sounded scary.<BR><BR>I replaced the =
condensor fan=20
and the capacitor. Everything seemed to be <BR>working fine, =
with the=20
unit putting out lots of cold air and sounding <BR>normal. I was =
concerned that the system might have had some damage during <BR>the =
week or so=20
it was running (not continuously) with the inop fan motor.<BR><BR>I =
kept my=20
appointment with my A/C guy for the end of the week to have him =
<BR>check=20
everything out.<BR><BR>Today, the system quit working. The =
condensor fan=20
was still running, but it <BR>appeared that the compressor was not=20
running. I turned the system off for <BR>an hour or so. =
When I=20
turned it on again, everything worked fine for about <BR>4-5 hours, at =
which=20
point the compressor again quit running. I tried <BR>turning the =
system=20
off an on again, with no results.<BR><BR>I know that the right answer =
is to=20
replace the system. However, I'm want <BR>air NOW, not next =
week. =20
A couple of questions:<BR><BR>1. Is the compressor toast? =
Any=20
chance there is a relatively easy fix?<BR>2. What should a =
replacement=20
system cost?<BR>3. When I replace the unit, should I also =
replace the=20
air handler?<BR>4. Should I go with a new R-22 or R410A=20
system?<BR>5. Any suggestions on brand of unit (+ or=20
-)<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>-- <BR>Mike Schumann <BR><BR><BR><BR>-- =
<BR>Posted via a=20
free Usenet account from <A=20
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Posted by Mike Schumann on June 26, 2007, 8:18 am
: quoted-printable
Exactly what kind of safeties are helpful in an installation where the =
owner is not present for extended periods?
Thanks,
Mike Schumann
What ever you do, replace the condensing unit or the compressor, have =
your technician install safeties controls on your system to shut it down =
if you have another problem.
--=20
Moe Jones
HVAC Service Technician
Energy Equalizers Inc.
Houston, Texas=20
www.EnergyEqualizers.com
Last week, we arrived at our South FL home and discovered that our =
A/C was=20
not working (~20 year old 4 ton Janitrol). I called my A/C guy, who =
was=20
booked solid 10 days out.
In desperation, I decided to try to fix the unit myself. The =
condensor fan=20
was not running. The compressor was running and sounded scary.
I replaced the condensor fan and the capacitor. Everything seemed =
to be=20
working fine, with the unit putting out lots of cold air and =
sounding=20
normal. I was concerned that the system might have had some damage =
during=20
the week or so it was running (not continuously) with the inop fan =
motor.
I kept my appointment with my A/C guy for the end of the week to =
have him=20
check everything out.
Today, the system quit working. The condensor fan was still =
running, but it=20
appeared that the compressor was not running. I turned the system =
off for=20
an hour or so. When I turned it on again, everything worked fine =
for about=20
4-5 hours, at which point the compressor again quit running. I =
tried=20
turning the system off an on again, with no results.
I know that the right answer is to replace the system. However, I'm =
want=20
air NOW, not next week. A couple of questions:
1. Is the compressor toast? Any chance there is a relatively easy =
fix?
2. What should a replacement system cost?
3. When I replace the unit, should I also replace the air handler?
4. Should I go with a new R-22 or R410A system?
5. Any suggestions on brand of unit (+ or -)
Thanks,
--=20
Mike Schumann=20
--=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Schumann</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What ever you do, replace the =
condensing unit or=20
the compressor, have your technician install safeties controls on your =
system=20
to shut it down if you have another problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Moe Jones<BR>HVAC Service Technician<BR>Energy =
Equalizers=20
Inc.<BR>Houston, Texas <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.EnergyEqualizers.com">www.EnergyEqualizers.com</A></DI=
V>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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<DIV>"Mike Schumann" <<A=20
=
nospam.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
$16350$88260bb3@free.teranews.com</A>...</DIV>Last=20
week, we arrived at our South FL home and discovered that our A/C =
was=20
<BR>not working (~20 year old 4 ton Janitrol). I called my A/C =
guy,=20
who was <BR>booked solid 10 days out.<BR><BR>In desperation, I =
decided to=20
try to fix the unit myself. The condensor fan <BR>was not=20
running. The compressor was running and sounded =
scary.<BR><BR>I=20
replaced the condensor fan and the capacitor. Everything =
seemed to be=20
<BR>working fine, with the unit putting out lots of cold air and =
sounding=20
<BR>normal. I was concerned that the system might have had =
some damage=20
during <BR>the week or so it was running (not continuously) with the =
inop=20
fan motor.<BR><BR>I kept my appointment with my A/C guy for the end =
of the=20
week to have him <BR>check everything out.<BR><BR>Today, the system =
quit=20
working. The condensor fan was still running, but it =
<BR>appeared that=20
the compressor was not running. I turned the system off for =
<BR>an=20
hour or so. When I turned it on again, everything worked fine =
for=20
about <BR>4-5 hours, at which point the compressor again quit =
running. =20
I tried <BR>turning the system off an on again, with no =
results.<BR><BR>I=20
know that the right answer is to replace the system. However, =
I'm want=20
<BR>air NOW, not next week. A couple of =
questions:<BR><BR>1. Is=20
the compressor toast? Any chance there is a relatively easy=20
fix?<BR>2. What should a replacement system cost?<BR>3. =
When I=20
replace the unit, should I also replace the air handler?<BR>4. =
Should=20
I go with a new R-22 or R410A system?<BR>5. Any suggestions on =
brand=20
of unit (+ or -)<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>-- <BR>Mike Schumann =
<BR><BR><BR><BR>--=20
<BR>Posted via a free Usenet account from <A=20
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Posted by Noon-Air on June 26, 2007, 8:56 am
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THe kind that come standard on top quality equipment but don't come on =
the cheap stuff like Junkatrol
Exactly what kind of safeties are helpful in an installation where the =
owner is not present for extended periods?
Thanks,
Mike Schumann
What ever you do, replace the condensing unit or the compressor, =
have your technician install safeties controls on your system to shut it =
down if you have another problem.
--=20
Moe Jones
HVAC Service Technician
Energy Equalizers Inc.
Houston, Texas=20
www.EnergyEqualizers.com
Last week, we arrived at our South FL home and discovered that our =
A/C was=20
not working (~20 year old 4 ton Janitrol). I called my A/C guy, =
who was=20
booked solid 10 days out.
In desperation, I decided to try to fix the unit myself. The =
condensor fan=20
was not running. The compressor was running and sounded scary.
I replaced the condensor fan and the capacitor. Everything seemed =
to be=20
working fine, with the unit putting out lots of cold air and =
sounding=20
normal. I was concerned that the system might have had some =
damage during=20
the week or so it was running (not continuously) with the inop fan =
motor.
I kept my appointment with my A/C guy for the end of the week to =
have him=20
check everything out.
Today, the system quit working. The condensor fan was still =
running, but it=20
appeared that the compressor was not running. I turned the system =
off for=20
an hour or so. When I turned it on again, everything worked fine =
for about=20
4-5 hours, at which point the compressor again quit running. I =
tried=20
turning the system off an on again, with no results.
I know that the right answer is to replace the system. However, =
I'm want=20
air NOW, not next week. A couple of questions:
1. Is the compressor toast? Any chance there is a relatively =
easy fix?
2. What should a replacement system cost?
3. When I replace the unit, should I also replace the air =
handler?
4. Should I go with a new R-22 or R410A system?
5. Any suggestions on brand of unit (+ or -)
Thanks,
--=20
Mike Schumann=20
--=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>THe kind that come standard on top =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Exactly what kind of safeties are =
helpful in an=20
installation where the owner is not present for extended =
periods?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Schumann</FONT></DIV>
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wrote in=20
message <A=20
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3183$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What ever you do, replace the =
condensing unit=20
or the compressor, have your technician install safeties controls on =
your=20
system to shut it down if you have another problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Moe Jones<BR>HVAC Service Technician<BR>Energy =
Equalizers=20
Inc.<BR>Houston, Texas <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.EnergyEqualizers.com">www.EnergyEqualizers.com</A></DI=
V>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Mike Schumann" <<A=20
=
nospam.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
$16350$88260bb3@free.teranews.com</A>...</DIV>Last=20
week, we arrived at our South FL home and discovered that our A/C =
was=20
<BR>not working (~20 year old 4 ton Janitrol). I called my =
A/C guy,=20
who was <BR>booked solid 10 days out.<BR><BR>In desperation, I =
decided to=20
try to fix the unit myself. The condensor fan <BR>was not=20
running. The compressor was running and sounded =
scary.<BR><BR>I=20
replaced the condensor fan and the capacitor. Everything =
seemed to=20
be <BR>working fine, with the unit putting out lots of cold air =
and=20
sounding <BR>normal. I was concerned that the system might =
have had=20
some damage during <BR>the week or so it was running (not =
continuously)=20
with the inop fan motor.<BR><BR>I kept my appointment with my A/C =
guy for=20
the end of the week to have him <BR>check everything =
out.<BR><BR>Today,=20
the system quit working. The condensor fan was still =
running, but it=20
<BR>appeared that the compressor was not running. I turned =
the=20
system off for <BR>an hour or so. When I turned it on again, =
everything worked fine for about <BR>4-5 hours, at which point the =
compressor again quit running. I tried <BR>turning the =
system off an=20
on again, with no results.<BR><BR>I know that the right answer is =
to=20
replace the system. However, I'm want <BR>air NOW, not next=20
week. A couple of questions:<BR><BR>1. Is the =
compressor=20
toast? Any chance there is a relatively easy =
fix?<BR>2. What=20
should a replacement system cost?<BR>3. When I replace the =
unit,=20
should I also replace the air handler?<BR>4. Should I go =
with a new=20
R-22 or R410A system?<BR>5. Any suggestions on brand of unit =
(+ or=20
-)<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>-- <BR>Mike Schumann <BR><BR><BR><BR>-- =
<BR>Posted=20
via a free Usenet account from <A=20
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