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Leak or no leak? billandpaulasmisc 08-05-2008
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Posted by KJPRO on August 5, 2008, 10:28 pm



> Hi,
> I am having a difference of opinion with a co-worker and I am
> wondering if I am right or he is right. His home AC stopped cooling
> (over time) and he had it cleaned and re-charged. He said the
> mechanic who charged it said it had lost nearly half its charge. I
> said if it lost any of its charge, then there had to have been a
> leak. To me this was common sense and agrees with what I know about
> car air conditioners. He said that he would choose to agree with his
> mechanic who said that all it needed was cleaning, charging and
> regular (once a year) servicing.
> Who's right?


You are... your co-worker and his *so-called* tech are complete dumbasses.



Posted by on August 6, 2008, 3:26 pm


> > Hi,
> > I am having a difference of opinion with a co-worker and I am
> > wondering if I am right or he is right. HishomeACstopped cooling
> > (over time) and he had it cleaned and re-charged. He said the
> > mechanic who charged it said it had lost nearly half its charge. I
> > said if it lost any of its charge, then there had to have been a
> >leak. To me this was common sense and agrees with what I know about
> > car air conditioners. He said that he would choose to agree with his
> > mechanic who said that all it needed was cleaning, charging and
> > regular (once a year) servicing.
> > Who's right?
> You are... your co-worker and his *so-called* tech are complete dumbasses.

Thank you. Guess I'll let him feel superior for a while.

Posted by KJPRO on August 6, 2008, 5:09 pm



>> > Hi,
>> > I am having a difference of opinion with a co-worker and I am
>> > wondering if I am right or he is right. HishomeACstopped cooling
>> > (over time) and he had it cleaned and re-charged. He said the
>> > mechanic who charged it said it had lost nearly half its charge. I
>> > said if it lost any of its charge, then there had to have been a
>> >leak. To me this was common sense and agrees with what I know about
>> > car air conditioners. He said that he would choose to agree with his
>> > mechanic who said that all it needed was cleaning, charging and
>> > regular (once a year) servicing.
>> > Who's right?
>> You are... your co-worker and his *so-called* tech are complete
>> dumbasses.
> Thank you. Guess I'll let him feel superior for a while.


Yep, there's no telling him any different... afterall the *so-called* tech
has to be right. <rolleyes>



Posted by Noon-Air on August 6, 2008, 6:29 pm



> Hi,
> I am having a difference of opinion with a co-worker and I am
> wondering if I am right or he is right. His home AC stopped cooling
> (over time) and he had it cleaned and re-charged. He said the
> mechanic who charged it said it had lost nearly half its charge. I
> said if it lost any of its charge, then there had to have been a
> leak. To me this was common sense and agrees with what I know about
> car air conditioners. He said that he would choose to agree with his
> mechanic who said that all it needed was cleaning, charging and
> regular (once a year) servicing.
> Who's right? How else might a home air conditioner lose its charge?
> If it can lose its charge without any defective parts, how does that
> happen and what needs to be done to avoid that happening?

Real simple to figure out.... Have the tech do an electronic leak search.
When the electronic sniffer finds a leak that big, it will go crazy even
being in the same room as the leak. Its a "sealed" system and unless there
is a leak, then it should *NEVER* lose any of its refrigerant charge. The
system should be checked at least yearly to make sure that it has not
developed any leaks. At this point in time, assuming that it is an R-22
system, your co-worker would be money ahead to replace the entire system
with a new super energy efficient R-410a system. If your co-worker suspects
someone stealing the refrigerant or "huffing" the refrigerant, put a dot of
fingernail polish on the caps to create a seal that will be a tattletail to
see if somebody is opening up the system that isn't authorized. If you think
its a neighborhood kid, then also coat the caps with Prussian Blue....and
when the seal is found to be broken, look for the kid with the blue fingers.


Posted by on August 6, 2008, 7:04 pm


wrote:

>> Hi,
>> I am having a difference of opinion with a co-worker and I am
>> wondering if I am right or he is right. His home AC stopped cooling
>> (over time) and he had it cleaned and re-charged. He said the
>> mechanic who charged it said it had lost nearly half its charge. I
>> said if it lost any of its charge, then there had to have been a
>> leak. To me this was common sense and agrees with what I know about
>> car air conditioners. He said that he would choose to agree with his
>> mechanic who said that all it needed was cleaning, charging and
>> regular (once a year) servicing.
>> Who's right? How else might a home air conditioner lose its charge?
>> If it can lose its charge without any defective parts, how does that
>> happen and what needs to be done to avoid that happening?
>Real simple to figure out.... Have the tech do an electronic leak search.
>When the electronic sniffer finds a leak that big, it will go crazy even
>being in the same room as the leak. Its a "sealed" system and unless there
>is a leak, then it should *NEVER* lose any of its refrigerant charge. The
>system should be checked at least yearly to make sure that it has not
>developed any leaks. At this point in time, assuming that it is an R-22
>system, your co-worker would be money ahead to replace the entire system
>with a new super energy efficient R-410a system. If your co-worker suspects
>someone stealing the refrigerant or "huffing" the refrigerant, put a dot of
>fingernail polish on the caps to create a seal that will be a tattletail to
>see if somebody is opening up the system that isn't authorized. If you think
>its a neighborhood kid, then also coat the caps with Prussian Blue....and
>when the seal is found to be broken, look for the kid with the blue fingers.

        Hell with that. Get an ammonia based system :-)


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