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Posted by whiteoak on December 30, 2006, 6:56 pm
Hey Group

It's a lennox pulse mounted horizonally in about a three ft. high crawl
space. I think this'll be it's 8th season to heat........ maybe ten ??
It's been a pretty good replacement for the old oil burner that i'd
gotten 20 years average service out of .... But .... it's not been
completely trouble free either :-( In the past four years it's had
three
grimlins in it. No ....... one repeated it's self.

I need to say that I had my programmable Emerson thermostat ( bought in
'93 ) that was used on the oil burner installed on the Lennox when I
the furnaces were swapped.

Now ..... Into about the third year of service, my Gas / Appliance
dealer sold out to a larger company ??............. along about then is
when the blower on the Lennox started to ocasionally
"run on " , best I remember we couldn't stop it running at the
thermostat ........ had to go kill the main power at the breakerbox.
I got up with the ex-dealer and he told me to put a couple drops of oil
on the limit switch shaft where it turns in it's pivots ........ This
seemed to help, but by that time heating season was over, and the
Moncrief AC, combined with the Lennox blower did a great job all
summer.

Then I believe I had a trouble free heating season.??
That gets me to last year, more than once I'd have to tinker with the
thermostat and finally the main breaker to get the burner going.

Again a trouble free cooling season in '06

Now, into this heating season,'06 / '07 the burner is failing to start
again. I've replaced the old
Emerson programmable thermostat three weeks ago with a solid state non
programmable "Hunter"
Thermostat.

Now, ocassionally, without touching the thermostat, I've had to go to
the main breaker box, shut the power off and back on........ wait for
the min.or two for the burner to fire and run ??

Hope I've not left anything out ?? .... The need for turning off of the
power is what's puzzling me ??

Any Ideas out there?

Much Obliged :-)

" WHITEOAK "


Posted by Noon-Air on December 30, 2006, 7:26 pm

> Hey Group
>
> It's a lennox pulse mounted horizonally in about a three ft. high crawl
> space. I think this'll be it's 8th season to heat........ maybe ten ??
> It's been a pretty good replacement for the old oil burner that i'd
> gotten 20 years average service out of .... But .... it's not been
> completely trouble free either :-( In the past four years it's had
> three
> grimlins in it. No ....... one repeated it's self.
>
> I need to say that I had my programmable Emerson thermostat ( bought in
> '93 ) that was used on the oil burner installed on the Lennox when I
> the furnaces were swapped.
>
> Now ..... Into about the third year of service, my Gas / Appliance
> dealer sold out to a larger company ??............. along about then is
> when the blower on the Lennox started to ocasionally
> "run on " , best I remember we couldn't stop it running at the
> thermostat ........ had to go kill the main power at the breakerbox.
> I got up with the ex-dealer and he told me to put a couple drops of oil
> on the limit switch shaft where it turns in it's pivots ........ This
> seemed to help, but by that time heating season was over, and the
> Moncrief AC, combined with the Lennox blower did a great job all
> summer.
>
> Then I believe I had a trouble free heating season.??
> That gets me to last year, more than once I'd have to tinker with the
> thermostat and finally the main breaker to get the burner going.
>
> Again a trouble free cooling season in '06
>
> Now, into this heating season,'06 / '07 the burner is failing to start
> again. I've replaced the old
> Emerson programmable thermostat three weeks ago with a solid state non
> programmable "Hunter"
> Thermostat.
>
> Now, ocassionally, without touching the thermostat, I've had to go to
> the main breaker box, shut the power off and back on........ wait for
> the min.or two for the burner to fire and run ??
>
> Hope I've not left anything out ?? .... The need for turning off of the
> power is what's puzzling me ??
>
> Any Ideas out there?

I'm gonna tell you what I think and then you can go away without getting
pissy.

I think you installed the lennox Pulse... if you would care to do a simple
search, you find that they are very problematic and a nice living for us
HVAC techs.

Second, its in a 3 ft crawl... bad move

Third, it hasn't been properly set up or serviced by an actual *competent*
tech.

Forth, Emerson made POS stats and Hunter makes decent ceiling fans, but
their thermostats suck worse than what you had in the first place.

Here's my advice... Get a decent furnace, get it out of the crawl, have it
installed by a *competent*, licensed HVAC tech, and have the tech install a
Honeywell stat.

You asked, and you got what you paid for

Have a nice day





Posted by whiteoak on December 30, 2006, 9:22 pm
Noon-Air wrote:
> > Hey Group
> >
> > It's a lennox pulse mounted horizonally in about a three ft. high crawl
> > space. I think this'll be it's 8th season to heat........ maybe ten ??
> > It's been a pretty good replacement for the old oil burner that i'd
> > gotten 20 years average service out of .... But .... it's not been
> > completely trouble free either :-( In the past four years it's had
> > three
> > grimlins in it. No ....... one repeated it's self.
> >
> > I need to say that I had my programmable Emerson thermostat ( bought in
> > '93 ) that was used on the oil burner installed on the Lennox when I
> > the furnaces were swapped.
> >
> > Now ..... Into about the third year of service, my Gas / Appliance
> > dealer sold out to a larger company ??............. along about then is
> > when the blower on the Lennox started to ocasionally
> > "run on " , best I remember we couldn't stop it running at the
> > thermostat ........ had to go kill the main power at the breakerbox.
> > I got up with the ex-dealer and he told me to put a couple drops of oil
> > on the limit switch shaft where it turns in it's pivots ........ This
> > seemed to help, but by that time heating season was over, and the
> > Moncrief AC, combined with the Lennox blower did a great job all
> > summer.
> >
> > Then I believe I had a trouble free heating season.??
> > That gets me to last year, more than once I'd have to tinker with the
> > thermostat and finally the main breaker to get the burner going.
> >
> > Again a trouble free cooling season in '06
> >
> > Now, into this heating season,'06 / '07 the burner is failing to start
> > again. I've replaced the old
> > Emerson programmable thermostat three weeks ago with a solid state non
> > programmable "Hunter"
> > Thermostat.
> >
> > Now, ocassionally, without touching the thermostat, I've had to go to
> > the main breaker box, shut the power off and back on........ wait for
> > the min.or two for the burner to fire and run ??
> >
> > Hope I've not left anything out ?? .... The need for turning off of the
> > power is what's puzzling me ??
> >
> > Any Ideas out there?
>
> I'm gonna tell you what I think and then you can go away without getting
> pissy.
>
> I think you installed the lennox Pulse... if you would care to do a simple
> search, you find that they are very problematic and a nice living for us
> HVAC techs.
>
> Second, its in a 3 ft crawl... bad move
>
> Third, it hasn't been properly set up or serviced by an actual *competent*
> tech.
>
> Forth, Emerson made POS stats and Hunter makes decent ceiling fans, but
> their thermostats suck worse than what you had in the first place.
>
> Here's my advice... Get a decent furnace, get it out of the crawl, have it
> installed by a *competent*, licensed HVAC tech, and have the tech install a
> Honeywell stat.
>
> You asked, and you got what you paid for
>
> Have a nice day


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First off ..... I won't be pissy. Enough pissy folks out there just
waiting to show their asses!!

Now.. No ... I didn't install my Lennox furnace. I was out earning
money to have it done professionally, by Parsons Gas and Appliance Co.
established in 1948. Before selling, owned and operated by the third
and fourth generation of the owners !! *competent*, licensed !! You've
got to be kidding ??
HUMMM ?? That's reccomendation enough for most folks.

Three ft.Crawl space ?? The house was purchased unfinished, I wasn't
too found of putting a furnace there but was assured by the first and
second installers that the crawl-space was so dry It "would not" be a
factor . ( it's dusty dry the year round )

The EMERSON POS thermostat ?? Hell .... It's a "WHITE RODGERS !!
Branded "Emerson" !! White Rodgers are pretty reputable ... and ... it
hasn't been proven faulty!

As for the Hunter thermostat ?? That was an impluse buy, but it hasn't
been proven bad either !!
Honeywell .... they're OK too ...... over-rated, but OK.

THANKS

OH !! BTW. I still have no idea why the furnace fires and runs after
the electric is interrupted, but I'll get a SERPER TECH to investigate
:-)

HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!!!!

"WHITEOAK"


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>I'm gonna tell you what I think and then you can go away without getting
>pissy.

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Posted by Bubba on December 30, 2006, 9:52 pm

>Hey Group
>
>It's a lennox pulse mounted horizonally in about a three ft. high crawl
>space. I think this'll be it's 8th season to heat........ maybe ten ??
>It's been a pretty good replacement for the old oil burner that i'd
>gotten 20 years average service out of .... But .... it's not been
>completely trouble free either :-( In the past four years it's had
>three
>grimlins in it. No ....... one repeated it's self.
>
>I need to say that I had my programmable Emerson thermostat ( bought in
>'93 ) that was used on the oil burner installed on the Lennox when I
>the furnaces were swapped.
>
>Now ..... Into about the third year of service, my Gas / Appliance
>dealer sold out to a larger company ??............. along about then is
>when the blower on the Lennox started to ocasionally
>"run on " , best I remember we couldn't stop it running at the
>thermostat ........ had to go kill the main power at the breakerbox.
>I got up with the ex-dealer and he told me to put a couple drops of oil
>on the limit switch shaft where it turns in it's pivots ........ This
>seemed to help, but by that time heating season was over, and the
>Moncrief AC, combined with the Lennox blower did a great job all
>summer.
>
>Then I believe I had a trouble free heating season.??
>That gets me to last year, more than once I'd have to tinker with the
>thermostat and finally the main breaker to get the burner going.
>
>Again a trouble free cooling season in '06
>
>Now, into this heating season,'06 / '07 the burner is failing to start
>again. I've replaced the old
>Emerson programmable thermostat three weeks ago with a solid state non
>programmable "Hunter"
>Thermostat.
>
>Now, ocassionally, without touching the thermostat, I've had to go to
>the main breaker box, shut the power off and back on........ wait for
>the min.or two for the burner to fire and run ??
>
>Hope I've not left anything out ?? .... The need for turning off of the
>power is what's puzzling me ??
>
>Any Ideas out there?
>
>Much Obliged :-)
>
>" WHITEOAK "

"Life's a bitch". Get over it.
Call a tech that knows how to service oil.
While you're at it..........replace the furnace, air conditioner and
thermostat.
Bubba

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