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Posted by Don Ocean on June 16, 2008, 9:23 pm
Noon-Air wrote:
>
>>> Dick Adams wrote:
>>
>>>> When I needed a new roof, it took me over a year
>>>> to find a rep who knew roofing. One rep told me
>>>> the job would be a roof over and would need 24
>>>> squares. I knew the roof already had two layer
>>>> and would be a tear-off - plus the roof was only
>>>> 24 squares. Needless to say I am leery of home
>>>> improvement reps.
>>>>
>>>> But now every one with whom I have spoken about
>>>> a new AC unit has a Master License (I checked).
>>>> But not one of them has done a load calculation.
>>>> And the lowest bid for a 2.5 ton, Seer-15 is
>>>> $5,400.
>>>>
>>>> Where can I find the math for a load calculation?
>>
>>> I don't show my load calculations on estimates.. You buy the job
>>> you get to see about $300 worth of load calculations. This isn't a
>>> hobby. A good computerized Load calc costs upwards to a $thousand and up
>>> to $5 thousand with all of the duct, material, etc addons. Plus it takes
>>> a few hours to input and get it right. Inspection department has to OK
>>> it along with the work plan. I don't do the paper hob for my
>>> competitors. When they worked for me I taught them right and let them do
>>> their own work. If you want to pay for the load calc..That is business..
>>> Free.. no way!
>>
>> Since you won't show me your load calculation, why should
>> I believe you did one?
>>
>> For all I know you're just looking at my existing unit
>> and making a bid to see how much I'm willing to pay.
>>
>> Dick
>
> The correct answer is this.....
>
> You will get a printed copy of the load calc report and an ARI
> certificate of performance when we install the system.
Nope.. First it is filed with the building officials along with an
outline of the work. When the Inspectors approve the job, You pay the
tab..Then and only then do you get everything that goes with it
including the warrantee paperwork. There is no insurance to pull. You
own that policy or you don't have a license. And a Bond. If you do
Government work, it is even more complex. By the way the Feds pay for
all necessary calculations before reviewing your bid. Most states
require all of this in advance or you don't get your license. and you
have to update your education each year. The client can of course go to
Community development and peruse the Marshall-Swift for typical costs of
such a job in his/her exact area and date. I have no problem with the
customer getting several competitive bids either. As for price books, I
have no intention of allowing my competition to get a look at that. It
is a bid with all services and equipment listed with a bottom line
price. This bid is good for 30 days and gives the period of time for the
job. If we are financing the Job, then there is a whole other paperwork
to be included. We like it that way, the customer likes it that way and
both yours and our bankers like it like that. Even the Lawyers
understand that. My job is to do your job with as least pain to you as
possible.
> Here is the installed price from my price book, there is no guesswork,
> and no surprises. Would you like me to pull a certificate of insurance
> for this job??
>
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