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More customers diagnosing their own furnaces Bubba 12-23-2006
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Posted by Bubba on December 27, 2006, 10:44 pm
wrote:

>
>
>> Hopefully Al falls off his box and onto his melon head and all will
>> return to normal.
>
>normal??
>
Okay, You got me. :-)
Bubba

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Posted by on December 27, 2006, 11:13 pm
"-zero" wrote:

>
><Al Moran> wrote in message
>
>> I've never done anything crooked. You would never have the opportunity
>> to fire me because I'd quit the first second I got wind of your
>> schemes. I am going to make sure your ass ends up on television now
>> you fucking crook.I guarandamntee it. You have been given fair
>> warning.
>> http://www.thehvacmedic.com - All the free heating and air answers you
>> want!
>
>Google won't remove ALL the posts.
>
>Let's see,,,
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.hvac/msg/50648237aa7ac841
>
>Glass houses,,, pots & kettles..... all of that.
>
>
>*COPY & PASTE BELOW
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>On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:42:03 -0800,
> almoran@hotmail.com wrote:
>>lmao. i used that surcharge today. homeowner claimed he was a master
>>electrician. he opened the unit and could not figure out why it
>>wouldn't start (5 yo carrier hp). When I got there he hovered over my
>>shoulder the entire time. The 3A fuse was blown because the tx was
>>shorted because a rat ate through the wires coming from the stat to
>>the board. charged the genius 20.00 for a fuse, 5.00 to tape up the
>>wires, 238.00 for the contactor, 118.00 for the tx and 59.00 for the
>>service call. All the asshole needed was the fuse. Usually I would
>>never sell someone something they don't need, but this clown was a
>>real asshole. I convinced him he really needed that contactor and tx.
>>cha-ching, he gets the asshole "discount"!
>
>........well.that speaks volumes.
>
>-zero
>
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>

heh. you might want to copy and paste this into Al's hvac help
forum. give the h/o's a heads up on the real Al Moran.

Posted by Power's Mechanical on December 27, 2006, 5:30 pm

Al wrote:
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:46:16 -0800, Al Moran wrote:
> =>>
> >Sounds to me like you're so "bent" because you've been caught doing
> >something you shouldnt have.
> >In my case, I sleep just fine. Too bad you seem to be having such a
> >problem. And dont even think of putting "me" in "your" class. You
> >wouldnt last a full work day here before Id fire your stupid fucking
> >ass. The best part of you is the waste that drooled down your mamma's
> >chin after the black garbage man got off her face.
> >Now go crawl back under the bridge where you live you bottom feeding,
> >fudge packing, cock sucker.
> >Bubba
>
>
> I've never done anything crooked. You would never have the opportunity
> to fire me because I'd quit the first second I got wind of your
> schemes. I am going to make sure your ass ends up on television now
> you fucking crook.I guarandamntee it. You have been given fair
> warning.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.thehvacmedic.com - All the free heating and air answers you want!

Will he be in the segment before or after your segement on selling
parts the customer dont need. Talk about crooks.


Posted by Bubba on December 27, 2006, 5:59 pm
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 06:21:00 -0800, Al Moran wrote:

>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:46:16 -0800, Al Moran wrote:
>=>>
>>Sounds to me like you're so "bent" because you've been caught doing
>>something you shouldnt have.
>>In my case, I sleep just fine. Too bad you seem to be having such a
>>problem. And dont even think of putting "me" in "your" class. You
>>wouldnt last a full work day here before Id fire your stupid fucking
>>ass. The best part of you is the waste that drooled down your mamma's
>>chin after the black garbage man got off her face.
>>Now go crawl back under the bridge where you live you bottom feeding,
>>fudge packing, cock sucker.
>>Bubba
>
>
>I've never done anything crooked.

Thats the funniest damn lie Ive heard in a long long time.

> You would never have the opportunity
>to fire me because I'd quit the first second I got wind of your
>schemes. I am going to make sure your ass ends up on television now
>you fucking crook.I guarandamntee it. You have been given fair
>warning.
>
.......and that has got to be the second funniest thing I have ever
heard in my life. Al, are you really that fucking stupid???
I cant wait to see you. It should be a real "bang".
See ya, you RETARD!
Bubba
>
>http://www.thehvacmedic.com - All the free heating and air answers you want!

Posted by geoman on December 24, 2006, 10:55 am
Get real Ken, the customers ONLY want free advice and the cheapest service,
Get with the real world, if you don't believe me, just ask them

"Do you want to have professional service and pay a premium price for it or
would you rather use Dave who you met at the bar? ""

Many would say, heck, if I could save a few bucks I would let Dave at least
have a stab at it,

Ken, you aren't living in the real world. I have had people coming to my
house on weekends to ask where the guy lives who puts furnaces in on the
side!!!! You don't have to believe me, but its the truth.


> Bubba wrote:
>> Customer 1
>> She calls Thur and says her heat works sometimes, other times it
>> doesnt. I go Fri morn and she is telling me whats wrong and swears its
>> the thermostat because its electrical??
>> I check the 16 yr old T87F. Its fine and looks like new.
>> Downstairs is the 16 yr old Bryant 398A furnace we installed way back.
>> It too looks like new other than its had most of its parts changed
>> over the years like all the 398's. It has a leaf in the intake pipe
>> causing the burner to stay off. I go up stairs and she asks me if I
>> changed the stat yet???? I said, "Hold on". Out to the truck for 2
>> diff digital and prog stats. She picks the digital programmable. I
>> install it, charge her for the call, charge for cleaning the pvc flue
>> and the diagnostic. Go figure. As they always say, "The customer is
>> always right"
>>
>> Customer 2 Sat the calls start at about 4pm. New customer in town has no
>> heat.
>> Just blower. Go out and find a 13 yr old Coleman 90% CUG furnace.
>> Igniter but no 24 volts to gas valve. The W/R ignition module is bad.
>> Then I notice, the module is 11 months old. Still under warranty. I
>> told her I can change it but I use H/W S8610U's and it wont be
>> warranty. She says, "OH, I guess I'll call Dave from the other end of
>> town. I found him at the bar. He does some A/C work". WTF!! hehe. I
>> collect my $100 Sat trip charge and she pays with a smile. "Go figure"
>>
>> Customer 3
>> Old guy with Apt complex. Tennants heard noise last night???.......and
>> he just calls me at 4:30pm today?? Sure. Why not. Makes sense to me???
>> His buildings have older boilers with series 100 circulators. He tells
>> me, "now you do know we have complete pumps, circulators, and pump
>> couplers in the parts room up there?"
>> Hell, whaddo I care. I'll use his pumps, charge him Sat rate including
>> a flat rate new pump price like anyone else and just subtract out the
>> pump price. He gets absolutey no warranty and thinks he is saving
>> money. I just smile when the check comes. It's all in a days work. Merry
>> Freaking Christmas to me. :-)
>> Bubba
>
> And you sound proud of the way you dealt with the customers??? Did you
> feel no obligation to fully inform them of the results of their decision?
> It is one thing, if after having been informed by a professional (YOU) of
> what was needed, they still want unnecessary repairs done. But you sound
> like you delighted in letting them make the wrong decision. I am sorry,
> but it is behavior like yours that makes customers suspect of those in
> your trade.
>
> I hope you have a "Merry Freaking Christmas" none the less.



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