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Posted by Noon-Air on October 2, 2007, 6:06 pm
> OK....I've got a NG Standing Pilot Burner furnace the size of a VW Beetle.
> Puget Sound Energy just happily announced a 13% cut in NG prices, stating
> the "average household" monthly heating charge would drop to just $82.
> BULLSHIT. I had my furnace OFF all July, and got a bill from PSE for $94-
> just to run the pilot. I've had the meter turned off all Aug and Sept., to
> see if they're prorating me.
> Anyway, it's getting cold, so I want to covert my furnace to electronic
> ignition, so there is no gas flow unless it's on. I don't want to grab my
> ankles for a 'guy' to come out and do it, so is there a retrofit kit type
> thing that I could do myself? I see some Honeywell valves on Ebay, and
> some kits, which don't seem to include the ignition side. I need the whole
> thing. I realize the dangers, liability, etc, so the discussion does not
> need to go that direction.
> Ideas?
> Thanks
> JR
Cheap bastard... just replace that Jurassic POS and be done with it.
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Posted by Mo Hoaner on October 2, 2007, 8:08 pm
> OK....I've got a NG Standing Pilot Burner furnace the size of a VW Beetle.
> Puget Sound Energy just happily announced a 13% cut in NG prices, stating
> the "average household" monthly heating charge would drop to just $82.
> BULLSHIT. I had my furnace OFF all July, and got a bill from PSE for $94-
> just to run the pilot. I've had the meter turned off all Aug and Sept., to
> see if they're prorating me.
<Irrelevent stuff removed>
> Ideas?
> Thanks
> JR
Yeah. Look at the serial number on your gas meter, as well as the current
reading. Now go look at the bill and see if the serial number listed there,
and the readings are anywhere close. You very well could be paying for
someone else's gas. If there's a mismatch, take some pictures of the meter.
No.. wait... Try to figure out how much gas that VW Beetle sized furnace
uses compared to what you are being billed for by taking your own readings
and doing the math. You might find that while you are paying for someone's
pool heat during the summer - that $94 bill you got when you used nothing -
the year round total is a bargain because they (the house that has the meter
you are being billed for) have a modern furnace.
When the meter reader walks around reading meters, he/she really doesn't
care about your address. The serial of the meter goes into the handheld,
along with the current reading. Who's house it's at (supposed to be at...)
gets sorted out later. If your meter (the serial number they think you have)
is on the same reader's route, this won't ever get figured out until someone
bitches, or they decide to do a calibration pull of your meter (this applies
to gas, electric, and probably water), and they expect to find meter
xyz-1234 according to the paperwork, but xyz-2232 is what they wind up with
in their hand. Here, we now have electric meters with radios in them. They
just drive down the street, and never get out of the truck.
Meter mix-ups are actually fairly common.
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Posted by JR North on October 2, 2007, 10:03 pm
Geeez... tough crowd.
JR
JR North wrote:
> OK....I've got a NG Standing Pilot Burner furnace the size of a VW
> Beetle. Puget Sound Energy just happily announced a 13% cut in NG
> prices, stating the "average household" monthly heating charge would
> drop to just $82. BULLSHIT. I had my furnace OFF all July, and got a
> bill from PSE for $94- just to run the pilot. I've had the meter turned
> off all Aug and Sept., to see if they're prorating me.
> Anyway, it's getting cold, so I want to covert my furnace to electronic
> ignition, so there is no gas flow unless it's on. I don't want to grab
> my ankles for a 'guy' to come out and do it, so is there a retrofit kit
> type thing that I could do myself? I see some Honeywell valves on Ebay,
> and some kits, which don't seem to include the ignition side. I need the
> whole thing. I realize the dangers, liability, etc, so the discussion
> does not need to go that direction.
> Ideas?
> Thanks
> JR
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Posted by on October 2, 2007, 10:40 pm
Yep :-)
But what you have describes is not new to us - anitquated old
horse of a system, utterly inefficient, probably from the 70's or 60's
or earlier, maybe even a coal conversion or an octopus. Home-moaner
wants to play 'DIY' with the gas train, wants free advice on 'how to'.
BTW - I bet there is not one single tech here, at least not
one that was trained right, that went out on his first day and started
changing out gas trains to those of a different design without expert
on-site intstruction and supervision, which is exactly where you are,
and what you propose. Why ? Because it's fucking dangerous. I have
personally seen buildings burned down because of it not being done
right, even by licensed 'techs' with training, let alone
home-moaners..
So, you want what ? We should go easy on you and say 'Oh,
yeh, here's your parts list, and here's how you do it' ?
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:03:32 -0700, JR North
>Geeez... tough crowd.
>JR
>
>JR North wrote:
>
>> OK....I've got a NG Standing Pilot Burner furnace the size of a VW
>> Beetle. Puget Sound Energy just happily announced a 13% cut in NG
>> prices, stating the "average household" monthly heating charge would
>> drop to just $82. BULLSHIT. I had my furnace OFF all July, and got a
>> bill from PSE for $94- just to run the pilot. I've had the meter turned
>> off all Aug and Sept., to see if they're prorating me.
>> Anyway, it's getting cold, so I want to covert my furnace to electronic
>> ignition, so there is no gas flow unless it's on. I don't want to grab
>> my ankles for a 'guy' to come out and do it, so is there a retrofit kit
>> type thing that I could do myself? I see some Honeywell valves on Ebay,
>> and some kits, which don't seem to include the ignition side. I need the
>> whole thing. I realize the dangers, liability, etc, so the discussion
>> does not need to go that direction.
>> Ideas?
>> Thanks
>> JR
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Posted by The Freon Cowboy on October 3, 2007, 7:32 am
here comes mr pissy pants , didnt get what he wanted ,
im sposed to give you information and access to parts ,
just because you asked ?
i worked for years to learn what i know ,
and i know that you dont know what i know
and now im supposed to just give it away ?
Bottom Line Mr Homoaner -
you dont know what youre doing .
you have a dinosaur of a furnace
you are not going to get what you want here .
we are not going to help you endanger your life or those of the people around
you
go away !!!!!
>Geeez... tough crowd.
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