Natural Gas Furnace & Water Heater Upgrade.

> Natural Gas Furnace & Water Heater Upgrade.
> Good day all, I have to replace my gas furnace, because the one I have
> is dying.
> Current Equipment & detail:
> 125 000 BTU gas fired furnace (chimney type)
> 50 US Gallons 42 000 BTU gas fired water heater (chimney type)
> My house is a bungalow (main floor=3D1000sq ft. + same size basement)
> I live in Canada, Province of Qu=E9bec - near Ottawa region.
> The temperature from dec to april can shift between +10oC to -30oC
> (50oF to -22oF)
> I had several company come and do estimates:
> After looking at different option I have chosen a high eff. dual stage
> furnace with variable speed.
> For all I could read on the subject, on the long run, it's the best
> choice, confort and $ wise.
> I had different "brand / type" of furnace offered :
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> York 92% Efficiency 2 stage 60 000BTU Affinity 9.V : PV9B12N060UP11
> Carrier (up to 96.6% ???) Efficiency 2 stage 60 000BTU Infinity Series
> : 58MVB
> *(What is "up to 96% ? Is this a marketing catch?)
> Goodman 95% Efficiency 2 stage 69 000BTU : GMV95
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> I don't know ANYTHING about which brand to get.
> Everyone is selling "The Best" type of thing, so realy it's hard to do
> a logical choice.
> I would like to get a neutral opinion / experience with the brands
> above.
> I also have questions :
> #1
> High efficiency furnace are direclty vented outside with an ABS type
> pipes.
> Can they "cap" the outside part with a "screen" or something similar
> to dryer vent so birds/mices don't enter the pipes?
> #2
> High efficiency furnace - 2 stages models, apparently required a "dual
> stage enabled thermostat"
> in order to get the full potentialof the furnace... Some sellers says
> that you NEED IT, some other said you don't need it
> since the 'controller' on the furnace take care of that.
> Some other sellers said that you don't need it, but it would be even
> more efficient to have one - confort wise and for gas consumption $.
> Since the furnace not equipped with the 2 stages thermostat will run
> for 8 minutes before going on the 2nd stage if required.
> #3
> NOISE:
> High efficiency Furnace and Water heater are equiped with a 'POWER
> VENT' ; Are these noisy ?
> Overall, the noise of my new high. eff. equipments equipped with
> power-vents should be lower than the noise of my current furnace?
> #4
> High efficiency water heater - is it worth it ?
> Currenlty my old water heater is rented at a rate of 10.50 cdn$/month
> The new High Efficiency water heater would cost 16.80 cdn$/month
> My Gas consumption for the water heater is approx. 40 cubic meter per
> month @ approx 0.60$/cubic meter =3D 24$
> How much efficiency would I get from a high efficiency water heater?
> Would it cover the rental $ difference between the 16.80$ ad 10.50
> model =3D 6.30$ ?
> (or will I save at least 10.5 cubic meter of gas per month or 25% ) ?
> Could you point me in the right direction?
> Thanks in advance,
> Ben
> Bencr...@hotmail.com

>> Natural Gas Furnace & Water Heater Upgrade.
>> Good day all, I have to replace my gas furnace, because the one I have
>> is dying.
>> Current Equipment & detail:
>> 125 000 BTU gas fired furnace (chimney type)
>> 50 US Gallons 42 000 BTU gas fired water heater (chimney type)
>> My house is a bungalow (main floor=1000sq ft. + same size basement)
>> I live in Canada, Province of Québec - near Ottawa region.
>> The temperature from dec to april can shift between +10oC to -30oC
>> (50oF to -22oF)
>> I had several company come and do estimates:
>> After looking at different option I have chosen a high eff. dual stage
>> furnace with variable speed.
>> For all I could read on the subject, on the long run, it's the best
>> choice, confort and $ wise.
>> I had different "brand / type" of furnace offered :
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> York 92% Efficiency 2 stage 60 000BTU Affinity 9.V : PV9B12N060UP11
>> Carrier (up to 96.6% ???) Efficiency 2 stage 60 000BTU Infinity Series
>> : 58MVB
>> *(What is "up to 96% ? Is this a marketing catch?)
>> Goodman 95% Efficiency 2 stage 69 000BTU : GMV95
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> I don't know ANYTHING about which brand to get.
>> Everyone is selling "The Best" type of thing, so realy it's hard to do
>> a logical choice.
>> I would like to get a neutral opinion / experience with the brands
>> above.
>> I also have questions :
>> #1
>> High efficiency furnace are direclty vented outside with an ABS type
>> pipes.
>> Can they "cap" the outside part with a "screen" or something similar
>> to dryer vent so birds/mices don't enter the pipes?
>> #2
>> High efficiency furnace - 2 stages models, apparently required a "dual
>> stage enabled thermostat"
>> in order to get the full potentialof the furnace... Some sellers says
>> that you NEED IT, some other said you don't need it
>> since the 'controller' on the furnace take care of that.
>> Some other sellers said that you don't need it, but it would be even
>> more efficient to have one - confort wise and for gas consumption $.
>> Since the furnace not equipped with the 2 stages thermostat will run
>> for 8 minutes before going on the 2nd stage if required.
>> #3
>> NOISE:
>> High efficiency Furnace and Water heater are equiped with a 'POWER
>> VENT' ; Are these noisy ?
>> Overall, the noise of my new high. eff. equipments equipped with
>> power-vents should be lower than the noise of my current furnace?
>> #4
>> High efficiency water heater - is it worth it ?
>> Currenlty my old water heater is rented at a rate of 10.50 cdn$/month
>> The new High Efficiency water heater would cost 16.80 cdn$/month
>> My Gas consumption for the water heater is approx. 40 cubic meter per
>> month @ approx 0.60$/cubic meter = 24$
>> How much efficiency would I get from a high efficiency water heater?
>> Would it cover the rental $ difference between the 16.80$ ad 10.50
>> model = 6.30$ ?
>> (or will I save at least 10.5 cubic meter of gas per month or 25% ) ?
>> Could you point me in the right direction?
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Ben
>> Bencr...@hotmail.com

>Some people consider goodman to be the "chevy" of hvac systems.

>Finding a good installer that is familiar with what he is installing
>and has a good track record will make a lot more difference in how
>trouble free the system is down the road.
>1. Yes they can put a guard on to keep birds out.
>2. You are spending a lot of money to get a hi-eff system, get the
>thermostat too.
>3. Not noisy. It's a small fan.
>4. I do not think you will have a 25% increase in efficiency. If you
>are you are going to be there a while you'd probably save by buying a
>hot water heater instead of renting one. If you figure a hot water
>heater is good for 12 years you are paying $1,512 for it.

> Natural Gas Furnace & Water Heater Upgrade.
>
> Good day all, I have to replace my gas furnace, because the one I have
> is dying.
>
> Current Equipment & detail:
> 125 000 BTU gas fired furnace (chimney type)
> 50 US Gallons 42 000 BTU gas fired water heater (chimney type)
>
> My house is a bungalow (main floor=1000sq ft. + same size basement)
>
> I live in Canada, Province of Québec - near Ottawa region.
> The temperature from dec to april can shift between +10oC to -30oC
> (50oF to -22oF)
>
>
> I had several company come and do estimates:
>
> After looking at different option I have chosen a high eff. dual stage
> furnace with variable speed.
> For all I could read on the subject, on the long run, it's the best
> choice, confort and $ wise.
>
> I had different "brand / type" of furnace offered :
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> York 92% Efficiency 2 stage 60 000BTU Affinity 9.V : PV9B12N060UP11
>
> Carrier (up to 96.6% ???) Efficiency 2 stage 60 000BTU Infinity Series
> : 58MVB
> *(What is "up to 96% ? Is this a marketing catch?)
>
> Goodman 95% Efficiency 2 stage 69 000BTU : GMV95
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I don't know ANYTHING about which brand to get.
>
> Everyone is selling "The Best" type of thing, so realy it's hard to do
> a logical choice.
> I would like to get a neutral opinion / experience with the brands
> above.
>
> I also have questions :
>
> #1
> High efficiency furnace are direclty vented outside with an ABS type
> pipes.
> Can they "cap" the outside part with a "screen" or something similar
> to dryer vent so birds/mices don't enter the pipes?
>
> #2
> High efficiency furnace - 2 stages models, apparently required a "dual
> stage enabled thermostat"
> in order to get the full potentialof the furnace... Some sellers says
> that you NEED IT, some other said you don't need it
> since the 'controller' on the furnace take care of that.
>
> Some other sellers said that you don't need it, but it would be even
> more efficient to have one - confort wise and for gas consumption $.
> Since the furnace not equipped with the 2 stages thermostat will run
> for 8 minutes before going on the 2nd stage if required.
>
>
> #3
> NOISE:
> High efficiency Furnace and Water heater are equiped with a 'POWER
> VENT' ; Are these noisy ?
> Overall, the noise of my new high. eff. equipments equipped with
> power-vents should be lower than the noise of my current furnace?
>
> #4
> High efficiency water heater - is it worth it ?
> Currenlty my old water heater is rented at a rate of 10.50 cdn$/month
> The new High Efficiency water heater would cost 16.80 cdn$/month
> My Gas consumption for the water heater is approx. 40 cubic meter per
> month @ approx 0.60$/cubic meter = 24$
>
> How much efficiency would I get from a high efficiency water heater?
> Would it cover the rental $ difference between the 16.80$ ad 10.50
> model = 6.30$ ?
> (or will I save at least 10.5 cubic meter of gas per month or 25% ) ?
>
>
> Could you point me in the right direction?
> Thanks in advance,

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> Bencrx91@hotmail.com
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