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Natural Gas Furnace & Water Heater Upgrade. Bencrx91 04-06-2007
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Posted by on April 8, 2007, 2:35 am

"DANgER" <"danger"@heat.com wrote in message
> #1
> > It's usually recommended, NOT to cover the pipes with anything. The
only problem I find with those pipes is snow, or occasional spider webs and
leaves.
> >
> #2
> > A single stage thermostat will run any of the furnaces you mentioned
above no problem. A 12-16min Low Fire cycle is fine.


Why pay more for a 2 stage furnace then put a single stage stat on it that
limit its operation? That's just ignorant!

A 2 stage furnace deserves a 2 stage thermostat!!!!



Posted by Bubba on April 8, 2007, 1:50 pm
On 08 Apr 2007 05:15:00 GMT, DANgER (danger<bubba@heat.com) wrote:

>#1
>> It's usually recommended, NOT to cover the pipes with anything. The only
problem I find with those pipes is snow, or occasional spider webs and leaves.
>>
>#2
>> A single stage thermostat will run any of the furnaces you mentioned above no
problem. A 12-16min Low Fire cycle is fine.
>>
>>
>#3
>> Yup, it's gonna be louder then the old conventional vent furnace and water
heater.
>>
>#4
>> Common mis conception. A power vent water heater is not high efficiency. A
condensing water heater like most tankless or combo units are high efficiency,
but not a power vented tank. I would never own a power vent tank.

>Conventional vent tank is worth owning, they rarely break down. You will have
paid $1500 for your existing tank over 15 years renting it. You could have your
own installed for $800 at the most. Power vent tanks have more parts,

>failures and won't heat without power.
>>
>> How much efficiency would I get from a high efficiency water heater?
>
>A power vent water heater is 80% max. Now you have the cost of electricity to
run the motor. A standard tank runs around 70%+.
>I'm not sure if by eliminating the chimney, it would resuslt in less heat loss,
which would then cover the cost. I can't really see much benifit of a power
vent water heater over a conventional vent, besides recovery time. People

>that have the power vent claim to save money though.
>
>Personally I would go with the high efficiency furnace, but I would keep my
conventional vented water heater up the chimney, because it's more reliable,
cheaper to own and repair, and will heat without hydro.

>
>
>-Canadian Heat

Geez-us! I go away for a week and you're at it again.

#2 A siingle stage stat for a 2 stage furnace? Yup, that sounds like
you DANgER. Do it wrong and do it wrong the first time.
I'll bet you change your tune when you set that stat back 10 degrees
overnight when the temp drops to 0 outside and you have to wait 16
minutes in the morning while getting ready for work in a cold house
while you wait for your furnace to cylce on High heat.

#4 Power vented water heaters useless? Thing ding bat, think. Ever
seen a new home now a days? The only chimney you will find is for the
fireplace. Where you going to run your conventional water heater flue
now?
Power vent heater installed for $800?! Have you priced one lately?
You'll be out of business quickly that way. (Oh, wait, that's a good
thing..............For YOU!!)

DANgER, you just keep proving yourself over and over and over.

Bubba

Posted by danger on April 9, 2007, 12:20 am
holy fuck bubba, wipe the foam from your mouth freak show. It was a very
enjoyable
week without you here.

"Conventional vent tank is worth owning, they rarely break down. You will have
paid
$1500 for your existing tank over 15 years renting it. You could have your own
installed for $800 at the most. "

I said $800 for a conventional vented tank like the one he has, not $800 for a
power
vent tank.

And a smarter person then you, would simply program his thermostat to re heat 16
minutes earlier in the morning....

MORON!


HAHAHA I missed you bubbs, glad to see your still ranting and raving and making
no
sense.

Clown!!!


-Canadian Heat


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Posted by on April 9, 2007, 12:33 am

"DANgER" <"danger"@heat.com wrote in message
> holy fuck bubba, wipe the foam from your mouth freak show. It was a very
enjoyable
> week without you here.
>
> "Conventional vent tank is worth owning, they rarely break down. You will
have paid
> $1500 for your existing tank over 15 years renting it. You could have
your own
> installed for $800 at the most. "
>
> I said $800 for a conventional vented tank like the one he has, not $800
for a power
> vent tank.
>
> And a smarter person then you, would simply program his thermostat to re
heat 16
> minutes earlier in the morning....



No, some of us DO IT RIGHT the first time by installing the proper TWO STAGE
thermostat. I know the extra wiring confuses you, but you should start
trying to do things right. Your customers deserve better!



> MORON!
>
>
> HAHAHA I missed you bubbs, glad to see your still ranting and raving and
making no
> sense.
>
> Clown!!!
>
>
> -Canadian Heat
>
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Posted by danger on April 9, 2007, 10:56 pm
kypro your are a dumb shit. He asked a simple question. The simple answer is
NO he
doesn't need a 2 stage thermostat to control a 2stage furnace. I understand
your very
proud of yourself for knowing how to install a 2stage thermostat, I'm proud of
you too!

HAHA


-Canadian Heat


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